jropert
Structural
- May 18, 2010
- 23
I am working on a Army Corps project that requires us to construct concrete pavements (typically 8-inch thick) with both smooth and deformed dowels ("tie bars").
For the smooth dowels the contract specifications state, "[Dowel] Bars shall conform to ASTM A615/A615M, Grade 40 for plain billet-steel bars of size and length indicated" (typically 20-inches on the drawings in our case).
For the deformed dowels the contract specifications state, "[Tie] Bars shall be billet or axle steel deformed bars and conform to ASTM A615/A615M or ASTM A966/A966M Grade 40."
Both types of bars will also need to be epoxy coated.
Our supplier is telling us that there are no such smooth dowels that are made (i.e. no industry standard available, only custom orders from a foundry which is way beyond budget). They are trying to supply us with ASTM A36 smooth bar dowels and ASTM A615 Grade 60 rebar (for deformed bars). Our supplier says they have talked with their foundry suppliers and have found that A36 steel is the only type of smooth dowel commonly produced and stocked, and grade 60 steel is only used for rebar, no grade 40 is produced for either type of bar nowadays.
Does anyone have experience in this type of issue with ASTM and grade types for smooth dowels and deformed dowels? The Army Corps will allow grade 60, but only for both types of bars (smooth bars being in question still since supposedly only A36 steel is available). We would like some "back-up" information to our suppliers statements before telling the Army Corps that their contract specifications don't make sense (if this is the case).
Thanks,
Josh
For the smooth dowels the contract specifications state, "[Dowel] Bars shall conform to ASTM A615/A615M, Grade 40 for plain billet-steel bars of size and length indicated" (typically 20-inches on the drawings in our case).
For the deformed dowels the contract specifications state, "[Tie] Bars shall be billet or axle steel deformed bars and conform to ASTM A615/A615M or ASTM A966/A966M Grade 40."
Both types of bars will also need to be epoxy coated.
Our supplier is telling us that there are no such smooth dowels that are made (i.e. no industry standard available, only custom orders from a foundry which is way beyond budget). They are trying to supply us with ASTM A36 smooth bar dowels and ASTM A615 Grade 60 rebar (for deformed bars). Our supplier says they have talked with their foundry suppliers and have found that A36 steel is the only type of smooth dowel commonly produced and stocked, and grade 60 steel is only used for rebar, no grade 40 is produced for either type of bar nowadays.
Does anyone have experience in this type of issue with ASTM and grade types for smooth dowels and deformed dowels? The Army Corps will allow grade 60, but only for both types of bars (smooth bars being in question still since supposedly only A36 steel is available). We would like some "back-up" information to our suppliers statements before telling the Army Corps that their contract specifications don't make sense (if this is the case).
Thanks,
Josh