Rotologo
Mechanical
- Feb 17, 2013
- 1
Hi community,
I just joined this forum and I was hoping to get some information / advise on what are you guys doing out there when it comes to operate / preserve mechanical seals having API Plan 32 as primary support system. The problem I'm facing as follows:
Operators are restricting the flow towards the mechanical seals on those pumps in hot standby, I have found out they do this for two reasons: to minimize the flushing consumption and to prevent the pump to cool down and seize (on the throat bushing area) as apparently this has happened in the past in some pumps. This have caused several mechanical seal failures during start up when the standby is needed for operation. After opening the seals I have seen a lot of contamination and in some cases even corrosion on the seal head which indicates a less than adequate flushing supply. Questions;
1.- Do you keep the same flow to the mechanical in a running pump and in a hot standby pump?. I know that seal chamber pressure will be different when the pump is down (especially in OH pumps) but what variable you control when the pump is not running, do you try to keep the recommended 15 ft/sec or the 10- 20 PSI above the seal chamber pressure in the hot standby pumps as well?.
2.- Are you permanently monitoring the seal chamber pressure (whenever there are provisions in the seal chamber to do that?). I have considered to start this practice but there are some concerns on creating new possible locations for loss of containment (hazardous fluids).
These mechanical seals are installed in a Delayed Coker and Vacuum units so in most of the cases we are talking about HC @ 500 - 700 *F and with relatively high particle content. The flow control is achieved by restriction orifices (supposedly) calculated to provide 15 ft/sec to the seals.
I'm new to this installation and I know there is a lot of education to be done in terms of understand how to operate the seal supporting system as well as in correcting design deficiencies (flow meters, warm up lines, etc.) but for now as I stated before I'd like to know your experience in the operation of the seal supporting system on hot standby pumps.
I'd appreciate your comments.
Regards
I just joined this forum and I was hoping to get some information / advise on what are you guys doing out there when it comes to operate / preserve mechanical seals having API Plan 32 as primary support system. The problem I'm facing as follows:
Operators are restricting the flow towards the mechanical seals on those pumps in hot standby, I have found out they do this for two reasons: to minimize the flushing consumption and to prevent the pump to cool down and seize (on the throat bushing area) as apparently this has happened in the past in some pumps. This have caused several mechanical seal failures during start up when the standby is needed for operation. After opening the seals I have seen a lot of contamination and in some cases even corrosion on the seal head which indicates a less than adequate flushing supply. Questions;
1.- Do you keep the same flow to the mechanical in a running pump and in a hot standby pump?. I know that seal chamber pressure will be different when the pump is down (especially in OH pumps) but what variable you control when the pump is not running, do you try to keep the recommended 15 ft/sec or the 10- 20 PSI above the seal chamber pressure in the hot standby pumps as well?.
2.- Are you permanently monitoring the seal chamber pressure (whenever there are provisions in the seal chamber to do that?). I have considered to start this practice but there are some concerns on creating new possible locations for loss of containment (hazardous fluids).
These mechanical seals are installed in a Delayed Coker and Vacuum units so in most of the cases we are talking about HC @ 500 - 700 *F and with relatively high particle content. The flow control is achieved by restriction orifices (supposedly) calculated to provide 15 ft/sec to the seals.
I'm new to this installation and I know there is a lot of education to be done in terms of understand how to operate the seal supporting system as well as in correcting design deficiencies (flow meters, warm up lines, etc.) but for now as I stated before I'd like to know your experience in the operation of the seal supporting system on hot standby pumps.
I'd appreciate your comments.
Regards