Tankie
Structural
- Feb 16, 2005
- 7
Greetings,
First of all, a disclaimer: not much experience with deep foundations, I'm more of a design-above-the-foundation type of engineer. But on several recent projects where augercast piles have been used, my colleagues and I have been at odds over the rebar cage length needed to satisfy IBC 2012 Section 1810.3.9.4.1. Would appreciate any feedback you can offer based on your own experience and/or knowledge of the IBC Code.
The structures are assigned to IBC Seismic Design Category C. The augercast piles are generally 50 to 70 feet long, 16 inch diameter, carry a large vertical compressive load (80 tons to 100 tons), have zero uplift, and a lateral load of around 4,000 lbs per pile. Sometimes wind shear controls the lateral loading, sometimes it's seismic shear that is greater.
The augercast piles are designed for lateral loads using LPILE, and more often than not, the bending moment in the pile goes to zero within 10 feet (+/-) of the pile top.
Here's where the difference of opinion begins. The foundation/pile designer will design the longitudinal bars, and select the length of the longitudinal bars, on the basis of the LPILE analysis, with no regard for the minimum length requirements of IBC Section 1810.3.9.4.1, which would require that the rebar extend a minimum of one-third of the pile length (that's the controlling criteria from this section of IBC).
I'm wearing the black hat and saying, essentially, that it doesn't matter one bit if LPILE says that the rebar can be terminated 10 feet (or 12 feet, or whatever) from the pile top. If the augercast pile is 60 feet long, and you're in SDC C, the rebar needs to be at least 60 / 3 = 20 feet long. Period. There's no code provision in the IBC that I can find that permits deviation from this requirement.
So, my question to you experienced foundation designers -- do you run into this same issue, and if so, what do you do? Follow the IBC and extend the rebar to the minimum depth specified in Section 1810.3.9.4.1? Or is there some clause or wording squirreled away somewhere in IBC that allows deviation from the minimum rebar length requirement?
Thanks for any feedback you can provide.
First of all, a disclaimer: not much experience with deep foundations, I'm more of a design-above-the-foundation type of engineer. But on several recent projects where augercast piles have been used, my colleagues and I have been at odds over the rebar cage length needed to satisfy IBC 2012 Section 1810.3.9.4.1. Would appreciate any feedback you can offer based on your own experience and/or knowledge of the IBC Code.
The structures are assigned to IBC Seismic Design Category C. The augercast piles are generally 50 to 70 feet long, 16 inch diameter, carry a large vertical compressive load (80 tons to 100 tons), have zero uplift, and a lateral load of around 4,000 lbs per pile. Sometimes wind shear controls the lateral loading, sometimes it's seismic shear that is greater.
The augercast piles are designed for lateral loads using LPILE, and more often than not, the bending moment in the pile goes to zero within 10 feet (+/-) of the pile top.
Here's where the difference of opinion begins. The foundation/pile designer will design the longitudinal bars, and select the length of the longitudinal bars, on the basis of the LPILE analysis, with no regard for the minimum length requirements of IBC Section 1810.3.9.4.1, which would require that the rebar extend a minimum of one-third of the pile length (that's the controlling criteria from this section of IBC).
I'm wearing the black hat and saying, essentially, that it doesn't matter one bit if LPILE says that the rebar can be terminated 10 feet (or 12 feet, or whatever) from the pile top. If the augercast pile is 60 feet long, and you're in SDC C, the rebar needs to be at least 60 / 3 = 20 feet long. Period. There's no code provision in the IBC that I can find that permits deviation from this requirement.
So, my question to you experienced foundation designers -- do you run into this same issue, and if so, what do you do? Follow the IBC and extend the rebar to the minimum depth specified in Section 1810.3.9.4.1? Or is there some clause or wording squirreled away somewhere in IBC that allows deviation from the minimum rebar length requirement?
Thanks for any feedback you can provide.