ASD Steel Construction Manual... 16

[Jambruins]

Anyone know where I can get a copy of the 9th edition ASD Steel Construction Manual. It doesn't have to be an acutal book, a download would be fine. Thanks.

 

[Lion06]

Check out AISC.com

 

[nutte]

It's not available from AISC anymore. Your best bet is to try eBay or some other second-hand book seller. You might get lucky at a brick and mortar used book store, but it's not likely. Expect to pay upwards of $120 for a used copy.

 

[JedClampett]

That's unbelievable! One hundred and twenty dollars for a steel manual that's 20 years old?
I guess I'm not going to give my copy to my kids to color in.

 

[Lion06]

I have one at home that I used in college. Can you believe they taught 9th edition ASD in 2005?!

 

[FSS]

That there is one of my most prized items in my office. Long live ASD!

 

[DHKpeWI]

If you are an AISC member, you can get just the 1989 specification from the AISC website in the "ePubs" section.

 

[Ron]

Maybe one day the Yahoo's that promote LRFD will figure out that ASD is just fine and the logic actually makes sense. As with FSS, my "red" book holds a prominent place on my bookshelf.

Hey FSS...give me a call! I still owe ya a beer!

 

[connectegr]

The 13th Edition Manual provides ASD and LRFD design examples. Is there something specific you are looking for from the antiquated spec or manual?

http://www.FerrellEngineering.com

 

[abusementpark]

ASD is just fine and the logic actually makes sense

What logic? ASD treats dead, live, and wind loads as if they have equal levels of variation from the nominal value. That doesn't seem very logical to me.

I'll agree that ASD still provides an adequate level of reliability for design. History has proven that. But let's not pretend like LRFD isn't superior.

 

[JAE]

I have about 8 AISC manuals on my desk of all different colors. I love them all. They are my pets.

But there's something so special about load factors...

And I think that if I got Ron enough beers (someday ) he'll come over to the dark side.

 

[graybeach]

Have you done an online search? I bought a 1948 edition for around $10 from a online book store (abebooks I think).

 

[Jambruins]

I have looked online and the best I can find is ebay for about $120.

Is the ePubs section on the AISC website free for memebers?

Thanks for all the replies.

 

[ToadJones]

Abusement-
You have a point, however, it all comes down to accurately determining loads. With 6 chapters of wind loading to go through now, my guess is 10 engineers will come up with 10 different loading scenarios, all yielding very similar results.
I was actually taught LRFD in school...when I got to work, I was worried knowing I'd have to learn ASD. That is, until I saw how straight forward it is. Now, It seems that AISC is almost backing away from LRFD a little bit and they have created a mess of a manual in the 13th edition which basically allows the use of ASD the same as it ever was with some minor differences.

 

[dcarr82775]

For most steel ASD or LRFD its whichever you are most comfortable with. The exception is composites beams, they are soooooo much easier with LRFD. I like nice plastic rectangles instead of those pesky ASD stress triangles.

 

[vandede427]

green 9th was like vinyl.
grey LRFD was like laser disc
black 13th is like dvd


i love my 13th edition. i love the way AISC combined ASD and LRFD. i just with they had kept column tables for A36 wide flanges.

 

[nutte]

I bought a 1948 edition for around $10 from a online book store (abebooks I think).

Yes, they must have made a million of the 5th edition. You can find it for next to nothing. The 9th edition is a different story, though, being that it is still used by many engineers.

Is the ePubs section on the AISC website free for memebers?

Yes. The 1989 specification can be found here.

http://www.aisc.org/WorkArea/showcontent.aspx?id=10292

 

[Jambruins]

Does the 1989 spec in the ePubs section have all the lookup tables? Is it the whole book in pdf format? Thanks.

 

[nutte]

No, the whole book is the Manual. The Specification is just the part that tells you how to calcualte your allowable stresses, things like that. The Specification does not contain the lookup tables.

 

[Ron]

JAE...I've been to the dark side in both steel and aluminum...still prefer ASD, but then, it's probably just because it was the way I first learned and got used to it.

Nothing wrong with LRFD, just that all my spreadsheets are ASD and I'm too lazy to create new ones.