Anyone knows about well kill operation? 1

[reiszal]

Hullo guys,

I have been asking around this question in this forum but seems nobody knows about it. The platform that I am involve in designing it has five slots of wellheasd for well fluids and one wellhead for well kill operations.

What is well kill operations and how it works? I even went to howstuffworks.com to look for this but to no avail. Please help me guys...

Reiszal

 

[MortenA]

i asnverd this in another tread

 

[Montemayor]

reiszal:

Let me get this straight. Your company has been hired to design a drilling platform that incorporates well kill operations. Obviously your client has selected you (your company) because he considers you as expert in this field.

Why are you asking this forum a question that we should be asking you? My question is not intended to be facetious, but isn't my logic correct - or am I missing something here? The reason I bring this point out is that how can we advise or make recommendations to someone who is considered an expert in the field? I would depend on getting the formal and correct answer to your question from your boss or supervisor who surely must have a firm grasp on that answer.

Art Montemayor
Spring, TX

 

[MortenA]

Art - i thought the same when i answerd the question - however well kill is a spcialists operation. I have often been involved in the design of well head process area (the drilling rig brough in to perform the drilling also has the required equipment and mud tanks onboard). I _do_ know what well kill is and the basics but i dont need to know much because it has allways just been a flange near the well marked "kill mud" to me. Beeing a curious guy i asked around when and got the answer. I asked my colleagues - some of them knew everything there is to know about this subject. What scares me a little is that Reiszal appereantly cant/is afraid to ask hes colleagues.

ABest regards

Morten

 

[Montemayor]

MortenA:

I also know and am familiar with well kill operations. However, like you, I also try to instill professional engineers with the basic concept that since we are all responsible for our designs (& our participation in such designs) we have to take a serious stand in drawing a line where we feel we can take responsibility in the results of something we participate in in order to ensure our client gets the results he deserves.

I strongly feel that giving advice and counsel to a client (or even to inquiries to this Forum) is a serious action for any engineer and we are always liable (at least morally) for the results. That's why, as you state, a young engineer should always be mindful that, in an organization that sells technology, he should never be alone until the time comes when he has had sufficient experience and results to accept the total responsibility. It is not surprising that you and I, although separated by vast distance, concur on the principle of always sharing information, questions, uncertainties, and even critiques with our colleagues (& supervisors) on projects where we are not the leading experts. That not only expands our learning scope, it also stimulates and keeps the technology leaders and owners on their toes and mindful that they hold a serious responsibility in communicating and sharing the useful and safe manner of passing on the final product to the client. I have noted that, in the present era, not enough of this training/learning process is being passed on to young and smart engineers recently graduated. We used to call this process "being squirrely -i.e., not sharing information. It is these young engineers who will be our future leaders and unless they are brought into the center of communications, we can't expect them to do us all a fair job.

Although others may feel we have not addressed this query, I feel that we have done the best service by stressing the importance of where the best answer for young reiszal is: right in the hands of his supervisors and colleagues that can do both themselves and their company a great service by helping him. The ultimate product the client receives will come from them, so that is where the best answer is.

Regards

Art Montemayor
Spring, TX

 

[jsummerfield]

I see that reiszal got a staight answer in the petroleum production engineering forum. He never said that he was responsible for such a design. In 1980 I too worked on a project where I first heard the term. Sometimes, especially as a recent grad, it is easier to ask a stranger a question on a web forum than to ask people who are evaluating your value as an employee.


John

 

[reiszal]

Thanks jsummerfield!!

But for the records here (i already mentioned it in petroleum production engineering forum), we do not have any petroleum engineer or that related to it that can answer my curiosity. All my leads and seniors answered me well but as far as i know their explanation still on the surface, meaning, not up to what I am looking for. And as far as i am concerns i never said or mentioend or whatsoever that i haven't asked my supervisor or seniors or leads regarding this issue and i also never said that i am responsible directly in the design that i involve in.. and thank God at least one person realised about this.. thanks again jsummerfield.

I only use this forum as secondary source of information and in fact not all the answers that i received in this forum will be the final answer that i am looking for. This is just my opinion about this forum, do not have any connections with the opinion that has been laid out in this thread.

I think sometimes being more curious will make someone angry. Luckily there are still people knows how to answer direct to the purpose of the question without being diverted off the course. Viva forever to those guys.

Cheerio,
Jericho.

 

[MortenA]

John and Reiszal

I actuall did answer the question straight away - on feb 9 in the "Chemical engineering other topics Forum " forum where you also crossposted the question. Comparing to the first reply in " Petroleum production engineering Forum" i think i got it right.

Reiszal im glad that you only use this site as "secondary source of info" because even though there are many well meaning and resourcefull people here you will have a hard time documenting findings based on advice from here.

John i dont believe what you say about that its easier to ask somebody that you dont know - or that it should be.

Best regards

Morten