Greg,Thanks for the reply.It is possible someone,over the weekend,put up a "poor" reply.As it was when I left it everything seemed fine??.. While I believe the red flag option is a good idea,I hope it does not discourage people from starting a thread,posting on it or replying.I do realize this IS a Pro-Engineering website and some questions,posts,threads are inane,boring ,whatever. I do feel some non-engineers (not necessarily myself) do have something to offer..... I also know I have gained a tremendous amount of knowledge from all here,To be "chased away" because of my profession would make for a less educated "me"... After all, The reason I hang around this site is to achieve a higher level of knowledge.This forum makes for a better person and a wiser technician.. Craig