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(3) 480V Substation main breakers tripped when a utility switched on a 345kV to 138kV transformer

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MTUgEEk

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Dec 7, 2006
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Looking to see if anyone has any experience in substation main breakers tripping when a utility switches nearby.

I currently work at a petrochemical style plant with many 480V main substations. Recently we had the utility switch at a yard not to far from our facility and had 3 main breakers trip off-line. The utility was switching at a 345kV to 138kV yard. We have 2 additional transformers isolating this activity(138kV to 34.5kV and 34.5kV to 480V) from the main substations affected. Both main breakers tripped on a double ended substation (cuttler-hammer w/ digitrip) as well as one other main breaker tripped elsewhere in the plant with the same isolation on a separate double ended substation (Siemens RL w/ Static trip III). When approaching each it looked as if someone just pushed the trip button. No indication of a pick-up or trip on the trip units, the 86 LO relay did not roll, and the auto-bus transfer (ABT) did not throw over. The ABT initiates when a Basler BE3-47N/27 and starts an Agastat relay to throw over. We know the Basler is sensitive to high frequency false activation but this does not appear to be the case. The 86LO relay is rolled when Basler 87T goes, but that was fine as well. Some power meters in the plant did pick up a 90% sag for ~2 Sec, but nothing else in the plant was affected. During the sag a slight DC offset is apparent on the waveforms, not sure if this is transformer inrush from the utility or built into the metering at our site. We are scratching our heads and production is hesitant to run because we do not know what could cause this type of interruption. All things in the electrical prints say this cant happen.

Looking for any help

MTUgEEk
 
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Is there an integral undervoltage release on the 480V breakers? These tend to be very sensitive to voltage dips.
 
Do you have SCADA control of the 480V breakers? In our area, in certain subs, with certain PLC's (SCADA), which 138>25kV transformers are switched for maintenance (via Circuit switchers only), the PLC's go crazy and show dispatch that the whole station is down. Weird and despite all kinds of troubleshooting, cable shield grounding changes the problem remains unsolved and out of my jurisdiction. Have you checked for DC ground faults?
 
90% sag for ~2 Sec = undervoltage trip.

Bill
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Were any large capacitor banks switched in during the switching? I had a nasty overvoltage from such an occurrences. AND a short DC component as a result of the short but violent overvoltage. It stopped two large paper machines and production refused to thread the web a third time. I had a fast recorder available and got the third trip. It happened around 6:30 each AM, so the paper guys took down the web before it happened. So much easier to start production again after an orderly shut down.


There is also Herivelto Bronzeado's case of Sympathetic Inrush (has been described in this forum), which may lead to similar problems. Had one case in Namibia where Herivelto's insights helped a lot.

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If there is no any error on human operated and no any fault cased the trip, then I would suggest to review your undervoltage setting and its philosophy (between upstream (utility) to your main intake substation & within your distribution network). You may share with all of us for the UV setting and philosophy if it available.
90% sag for ~2 sec, should not affected to end user side especially downstream network (distribution).
With this incident, your ABT (ATS) is activated looks normal but tripping downstream is showing something wrong in the setting or configuration of the UV relay at your main intake i.e. pick up, drop out(off) delay time, recover time, etc..
Do you have HSBT or normal ATS at your main intake substation?
 
The undervoltage release on the main breakers is disabled. As for the 90% sag per ITIC curve (old CBEMA) should be good forever. You get into a 10+ second dip @85% and you might see something (and that is what the Basler is factory set to). No SCADA, but would love to have a system.
We were able to properly test the sub yesterday and we did find out that the ABT did not function as intended, and believe the TOC on the tie-breaker is the part not working correctly. We believe both sides experienced an undervoltage event from that 90% dip, and attempted to activate the ABT. We did have something similar back many years ago where a VFD did this to the sub (weird high freq. ground fault triggered the Basler 47N/27 relay) and implemented a block on undervoltage trip if the other side goes on undervoltage. Currently the undervoltage will take both sides out if it sees it, and that is something we can not afford to do.

Thanks for your feedback

MTUgEEk
 
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As you mentioned if TOC is operated then it will block transfer! Then both incomer were tripped. This was happen in 480V (LV level).
Therefore, you should do enable incomer UV setting to function in all level (HV through LV) in addition ABT automatic transfer shall initiate the auto-transfer scheme is coordinated with upstream switchgear auto-transfer time so that it is always later than the upstream switchgear auto transfers. It means to say that ATS shall have delay time and coordinated (properly) between HV through LV.
UV setting of Incomer and ATS transfer shall be coordinated. ATS logic scheme also need to properly set for both cases transfer and blocking.
 
Are there any wye gorunded delta transfomers or transfomers with a wye primary in your system? Its possible you have a zero sequnce source in the plant and not know it... Its just one possible guess.
 
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