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Yea Rick ~ I understand that for a sole practice - but when you have over 50 engineers to pay every two weeks, none of them want to work for free and take the loss personally - the Company takes it. Thanks

Thanks and I do like the old saying.

bvanhie ~ interesting post. I am preparing for our retreat and was searching the web for this discussion. Can you share what you mean by "you don't have a different rate fro drafting vs. conceptualization". Are you saying you quote you average billable hourly fee to you client and then...