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Bioengr82, In response to getting me on the PE band wagon way of thinking, Aint gonna happen! I enjoy being a non-"pedegree" success. If the opprotunity to take the tests to become a PE ever came around for people like me, I would gladly take the tests, but it would not change the way I do...

At last we agree, inpart, on something! The only exception is that I can't think of any instance that a foreign engineer that comes to this country is paid any less than an American with the same experience. If your talking about the salary over seas as compared to the US, then that may be...

EddyC, Excellent point! I just think that there are a lot of qualified people that can be licensed but without a standard for the whole country the licensing criteria is very arbitrary. The last handful of post show the differences from state to state. I think that more skilled Americans can...

Bioengr82, It seems that you have chip on your shoulder or you feel threatened by accomplished people that don't have a degree. Wasn't it you how brought up the tumor removal by a specialst? I was just making a comparison when you brought up the tumor removal and if you were to ask any doctor...

Bioengr82, Correct me if I am wrong, but, don't the doctors call what they do a practice? And don't we all pride ourselves on the fact that we can predict with a very high level of accuracy the outcome of the intended project before we start? If WE practiced our trades then WE would be out of...

ctopher, I agree with you about finding someone who is competent enough for the job. I think that part of the reason that you are seeing people as being lazy or that they don't care is, in my opinion, that most people that advance their knowlegde either by getting a degree or by skill training...

2dye4, My thoughts exactly. But, when it comes down to the state government recognition of knowlege and skill to be able to call yourself an engineer, most states only want to see that degree, regardless of prior experience. You hit the nail right on the head.

Icelad, I have contacted the U of Alabama and ND but one of the requirements are that I can be at one of their other campuses and they have video links and taped sessions only at their other sites. I am still pluggin' away though. UcfSE, Youd did understand correctly, however, the details were...

Bioengr82, It is not a matter of ethics. The analogy of heart and brain surgery I don't get. What I do get is the fact that in today's world there is an increasing amount of "book-smart" people flooding the market place. If you understand the way that learning is achieved- 1-rote...

EddyC, Here in Kentucky, the board has a requirement of an ABET accredited college degree plus the four years. I have no problem showing ability or knowledge through tests but the fact that they will not recognize ANY experience ( field experience and my 3.5 years from Georgia Tech) without the...

Bioengr82, I had posed this question to the state licensing board: How can a degreed inividual with four years experience and a PE sign-off on plans involoving technology/materials that they are remotely familiar with without the proper experience? Under the current regulations, they can, and...

Biengr82, A chip on my shoulder? There is none. I jus think that it is very short sighted by all industries to dismiss quality or knowledge due to a piece of paper. I have never lost a contract due to not having a degree but the reliance of one in lue of an established history of performance...

In light of my comment about being able to ace the final for an aeronautical engineering degree, I had pretty much done that. I was lacking approx. 4-6 months of studies when I was recruited, along with others, by a defense contractor to do propulsion work with the understanding of having the...

To bioengr82, I do read quite well and I have read the responses that matter and make sence, thank you.

The topic of who can be called and engineer recently came up and I was accused of being an illegal engineering company due to the fact that my 26 plus years of building and designing aircraft parts did not quailify me as someone who is capable of performing engineering task. Also, it was stated...