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  1. don1980

    EN 13480 vs ASME B31.3

    Does EN 13480 allow short-term pressure excursions similar to those allowed by ASME B31.3? Specifically, I’m referring paragraph 302.2.4 in ASME B31.3 which conditionally allows excursion up to 120% and 133% of design pressure, for a limited number of hours per occurrence and per year. This...
  2. don1980

    Relief for EN 13480 piping

    Does EN 13480 (process piping standard) allow short-term pressure excursions similar to those allowed by ASME B31.3? Specifically, i'm referring paragraph 302.2.4 in ASME B31.3 which conditionally allows excursion up to 120% and 133% of design pressure, for a limited number of hours per...
  3. don1980

    Frustration with Aspen Flarenet?

    I've used Flarenet (Aspen Flare System Analyzer) off and on for many years, starting with v7.3. I'm now using v9.0. With each new release I find maddening bugs and quirks with this program. The pattern I've seen is that they fix some bugs and problems, and create new ones at the same rate. I'm...
  4. don1980

    B31.1 pressure protection

    I have a B31.1 steam header (nonboiler external piping) that is protected by multiple PSVs. This is a 600# system and the gap between the operating pressure and the PSV set pressure is low. So, I want to minimize the risk of popping the PSVs by setting them as high as possible. But when I look...
  5. don1980

    Maintenance and Inspection of Tank Vent Devices

    Low pressure API tanks seldom have installed spare vent devices (PVRV, ERV, VRV, etc). How does your company handle maintenance and inspections of these devices when there isn't an installed spare? Do you do all of this testing/inspection in-situ, without removing the device to the shop? Do you...
  6. don1980

    ASME Sec I, BFW Pump minimum discharge pressure

    I thought there was an ASME Sec I requirement stating that the BFW pump must have enough head to maintain a flow even when the boiler is at its relief pressure. I recall this from a power plant project I did back in the 90's. A question came up today, related to BFW pump head requirements. I...
  7. don1980

    PED question regarding equipment installed prior to PED

    I've searched through the PED regulation (2014/68/EU) and I don't see any reference or discussion about equipment that was in service prior to PED. Are PED regulations retroactive? It seems inconceivable to me that the answer would be yes. After all, most of today’s vessels and relief...
  8. don1980

    State Specific Regulations

    Do you know of any states that have pressure relief regulations that are more restrictive than ASME Sec VIII? I'm aware that California code explicitly requires the use of a relief valve or rupture disk, and excludes the use of HIPS or UG-140 (protection by system design). That's due to...
  9. don1980

    OSHA 1910.106 Flammable and Combustible Liquids

    In the past, I have thought OSHA 1910.106 only applied to storage tanks and pressure vessels which function as storage tanks(operate at < 15 psig). Someone challenged that, saying that this OSHA reg applies to all pressure vessels which function as storage tanks, regardless of the operating...
  10. don1980

    PSVs on Vendor Package Equipment

    All, What is your experience in getting adequate design documentation for PSVs that are part of packaged or skid mounted equipment? Are you successful in getting the documentation you asked for in the specifications? Thanks, Don
  11. don1980

    Tailpipe losses not limited to 10%

    I've just become aware of the section in API 520 Pt1 (3.3.3.1.3) that allows higher built-up backpressure (higher than 10%) for cases where the overpressure is > 10%. It says that the built-up backpressure can be >10% provided that it doesn't exceed the allowable overpressure. Technically...
  12. don1980

    Anyone Knowledgeable About European PED Rules?

    My colleagues in Netherlands and Germany claim that they're not allowed to use standard pilot operated PSVs, unless they're fitted with triple-redundant pilots. Obviously, that a show-stopper! I've referred them to the harmonized EU standards (ISO-4126-4 Pilot Operated Safety Valves) but they...
  13. don1980

    European Code Requirements

    I'm looking for clear information stating the allowable accumulation for fire sizing in jurisdictions that are covered by PED.In the committee response copied below, they say that 10% accumulation isn't the rule for fire scenarios, but they don't give the allowable value. Can anyone provide me...
  14. don1980

    Survey Question: Pool fire from LPG?

    For process equipment containing flammable liquified gases, no heavier than say propane or propylene, what is your assessment of the credibility of a pool fire: A) Always credible. B) Always not credible. C) Case dependent, but typically credible. D) Case dependent, but typically not credible.
  15. don1980

    Check Valves in Relief Flow Path

    What is your opinion on allowing a check valve between the protected vessel and the PSV, or between the PSV and the vessel to which the fluid is routed? I didn't see this addressed in API-521 or any other code or standard. If you're opposed to allowing check valves in the flow path, is this a...
  16. don1980

    Max overpressure for pumps

    What are the rules governing overpressure limits for ANSI and API pumps? Since they are not pressure vessels, are treated the same as piping from the perspective of overpressure protection?

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