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  1. coarts

    13 R heads in closets

    13 R has an exception for installing heads in closets only accessible from outside an apartment [such as from a balcony] with no unprotected openings into the apt. [6.9.7 of nfpa 13r 2007] However, 6.9.4 says if it has heating equipment in it, it gets sprinklered. Do you normally put a...
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    Combustible Stairs

    Nfpa 13 requires sprinklers beneath all stairs of combustible construction. To comply with this, I believe we need sprinklers at each floor landing, not just top and bottom as in non-combustible stairwells. Would this be correct or would someone say the mid-landings need sprinklers also. Thanks...
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    Internal pipe inspection

    If you have a multi story apt building with one combined riser and zoned per floor, does NFPA 25 require internal pipe inspection every five years for the one whole system, or is it "every other system" meaning each alternate floor zone?
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    REDUCER BEFORE FIREPUMP

    Nfpa 20 is clear on the need for an eccentric reducer before the firepump when it is splitcase horizontal. What I am confused about is why is there the same need for ecentric reducer on a vertical pump? Since the pump rotates 90 degrees different, why is there still required to have an eccentric...
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    DRY SYSTEM DELIVERY TIME CALC

    Does anyone out there have access to the Tyco program for delivery time that would be willing to do the calculations [for a fee] for an attic system. Its calced in Hydracalc and we could email the dwg. Thanks for any help you can give. This needs to be a formal program listed by a nationally...
  6. coarts

    approved hangers

    Does anyone have any experience or advice for bidding a large project with all "isolation hangers". Are there approved hangers for sprinkler pipe how would you facter in the added cost?
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    CONCEALED SPACE SPRINKLERS

    If there is a ceiling that is 8" below the solid wood joists and the steel that supports the ceiling is 2" thick, would you consider this exempt from needing sprinklers above and below? It may be a little picky but the space to fit the pipe and upright cc2 head is really limited if not...
  8. coarts

    calcing with a pressure tank

    Can anyone point me in the right direction on where it would show the way to calc a system with a pressure tank. After I determine the ratio of pressure and water, where does it tell you what to use for the residual pressure and flow? Am I missing something in 13?
  9. coarts

    ANTIFREEZE HYDRAULIC CALC

    Does nfpa 13 require a special calc using Darcy-Weisbach formula for antifreeze systems or is it just recommended? In a small attic system less than 40 gallons would the Hazen-Williams calc [we use hydracalc] be close enough?
  10. coarts

    Manual Standpipe Control Valves

    If you have a parking garage with a manual standpipe system [just fdc supplied] with five risers, is there a purpose in putting riser control valves at the bottom of each? I understand the need to isolate a riser in a wet system, but does NFPA 14 require them if it is just manual with no water...
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    Remote Area Increase

    Nfpa requires a 30 percent increase for slopes more than 2/12. It does not seem to address a curved roof as found in a large quanset type structure. First, there is no way to determine the slope if the roof is curved, right? Second, would the increase apply to curved roofs since it is the same...
  12. coarts

    Sprinklers in a "floating" ceiling

    If you have a decorative "floating" ceiling below the main ceiling that is open around the edges, you need heads in the lower ceiling since it is more than 4 foot wide. However, when do you need to have heads above it also? If the lower ceiling is only say 12" below the main ceiling [all...
  13. coarts

    dry system delivery time

    Does anyone know the best way to get an inexpensive [or free] program that would estimate the water delivery time for a dry system. We have hydratec calc that may be used somehow to input the info. Thanks for any suggestion.
  14. coarts

    firepump size with standpipes

    If a low rise building can be allowed to have a manual standpipe, i.e. calc it with supply by fdc only, but sprinkler system needs a firepump, could you size the pump just for sprinkler demand? This would be a difference between a 200 gpm pump for sprinkler or 1000 gpm pump for 3 standpipes. In...
  15. coarts

    head spacing

    Would the area of coverage of the heads along the beam be less than 168 sq ft?
  16. coarts

    schedule 5 pipe repair

    Is anyone familiar with the old Poz-Lok system using sch 5 thinwall pipe? We need to make repairs to pipe in this system and fittings are no longer available. Any ideas of how to connect this sch 5 to regular sch 40 or sch 10? What would be ul approved method-- possible slip fittings? Any help...
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    Small hose connections supply pipe size

    When small 1 1/2 hose connections are provided in storage occupancies, nfpa 13 states in 8.17.5 {2007} that pipe size shall comply with sizes given ie. 1 1/2 to 1 1/4 to 1" down. etc. However in 12.8 the code says that you must allow 50 gpm at most remote and up to 100 gpm multiple. Does this...
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    heads in closets

    Not that I would ever disagree with a fire marshal, but if NFPA 13 states that sprinklers are required in closets in dwelling units except hotels and motels, why would we be allowed to leave them out of closets in apartments and condos because NFPA 101 says you can. What takes precedence and why...

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