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  1. Rob130

    Heat treat AD rivets

    Recently heard one of our customers heat treat AD rivets to about 200 F for one hour prior to installation so they drive easier. As a structural repair tech and current instructor I have never heard of this practice. My concern is they are annealing the rivets and they will never handle the...
  2. Rob130

    Countersink or Dimple

    Assume damage to pressurized skin, Flush patch required, skin - 2024-T3 .050, .063 doubler. SRM Calls for same size, type, spacing and distance between rows as nearest skin splice. MS20426AD5 Rivets 1.0 spacing, .8 pitch. Skin Splice is dimpled. .050 existing skin can't be countersunk due to...
  3. Rob130

    Volumetric flow rate for jet fuel

    We are a group of C-130 flight engineers trying to determine the amount of fuel that can be transferred in a manner not covered in the operations manual. We need to determine a GPM or GPH for fuel flow into a tank. The pipe length is 3 feet, the tube is .5 ID 6061 AL, Fluid density is .03...
  4. Rob130

    If you could tell a Sheet Metal Tech one thing...

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  5. Rob130

    Blind fastener hole tolerance.

    I have read the great thread on blind fasteners but need to ask this question. My SRM and the Cherry/Textron Cherrymax manual call for using a hole tolerance of .160-.164 for a nominal -5 diameter rivet. M7885/( )-5 The SRM calls for a #20 finish drill. The Cherry/Textron specs will not allow...
  6. Rob130

    Grain Orientation for bends

    Standard practice is to bend across the grain for single bends. My question relates to different bends in a flat sheet. Say you need to make a triangular gusset that is riveted on 2 flanges in a 90 degree corner. If you layed the sheet out to where one bend was cross grain, the other bend...
  7. Rob130

    Recommendation for New Group

    I am soliciting suggestions for the appropriateness and usefulness of a new forum under the Aeronautical Engineering banner. "Aircraft Structures Best Practices" or any variation suggested by the board. Specifically it will be devoted to the Technicial/Mechanic side of structural engineering...
  8. Rob130

    Blind sub for NAS623?

    Does anyone have a reference or data that specifies a suitable blind fastener to replace a NAS623 screws? My SRM and other reference material does not address this problem. Assume tension load is a factor. TIA Rob130
  9. Rob130

    Upset flush rivets

    Is there a standard practice when installing protruding head upset flush, or flush both sides rivets, to determine the amount of material removed to allow the buck tail to be flush? I would assume the dimension would be a specific width for the csk relative to the rivet diameter or a % of the...
  10. Rob130

    Flush skin repair over obstructed area?

    I am a structural mechanic with 30 years military and civilian experience. Presently I teach structural repair courses for the military. I have come upon some conflicting repair designs for two different types of aircraft. It involves pressurized flush skin repair over an obstructed area...
  11. Rob130

    7050E Rivet Heat Treatment

    I have come upon some conflicting information on the E rivet. TO 1-1A-9 Aerospace Metals Manual pg.3-20 para f. states D/DD/E rivets can be kept refrigerated at -10 degrees and must be driven within 30 minutes. I was under the assumption that the E rivet did not require any special handling...
  12. Rob130

    NAS1097AD Rivets

    Does a table exist to compare the static joint strength of a NAS1097AD rivet to the MS20426AD rivet? MIL-HDBK-5H on shows the NAS1097E rivet for comparison. I teach a course in structural repair and would find this comparison useful.

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