Pretty much anywhere east of the rockies. Heck, in some places I'm seeing that architects are the ones submitting structural drawings on significant buildings...and doing a piss poor job. Yet nothing can be done because its common practice and the building depts allow it. Sure would be nice...
I think the lack of code enforcement is due to a lack of quantity and quality of people in the building departments, but that can obviously be a thread in itself.
Allowing mediocre design allows mediocre engineers to exist.
Wow, what a misguided approach. Every discipline is unique. Maybe this is geared more toward EE's or ME's.
Hg/TX, do you really think it's your image that's hurting the industry? I thought it was because the states dont enforce the codes which allows schlup SE's to underbid everyone...
PhD is 90 credits (48 course, 42 research)
MS is 30 credits (21 course, 9 research)
It completely depends on where you do your MS if your credits can transfer. If I went for the PhD it would have taken me an additional 2.5 years on top of the 1.5 for the MS. 6 years for PhD is not unheard of...
Here's a great graphic that puts things into perspective
http://money.cnn.com/news/specials/storysupplement/stimulus-tracker/index.html
Look at Simulus 1 package and the amount of money allocated towards infrastructure versus everything else.
Honestly I think the blame squarely rests with...
It's not that you're doing engineering for the money. It's that you're taking on educational debt with less time to pay it off. There is a point where a person needs to balance job enjoyment and the expected quality of life.
Being able to have a good career isn't an issue. The issue is the amount of return on your educational investment. Typically engineering doesn't pay as well as other professions. Jumping in late hurts your return even more, to the point it may not be worth pursuing.
If you're ok with how the...
Manym,
You're singing to the choir. I see a lot of engineers complaining, ranting and raving, but I never see any action to correct the problem aside from an isolated person here or there. Maybe the passive nature of the structural engineer is the root problem of why such a backwards...
Manym,
As a seasoned structural engineer who's obviously thought a lot about these subjects, what do you think the older SE's need to do? What should the younger engineers be striving for? Abandon ASCE and start a new organization? Somehow make change?
I'm asking because I'm in a position to...
There may be websites out there, but you typically need to go directly through an editor to do what you're speaking. I'm a member of one such organization and do reviews all the time on various structural and materials papers.
The reason it's done this way is so the reviewers with known...
Manym,
I think a discussion regarding why and how our profession has become more complex can be a thread in its own. and further, why advanced degrees are required to deal with this complexity another.
Manym, I think society values what we do.....they're just ignorant to the fact codes aren't enforced.
As an engineer who's worked since the 70's, do you agree that codes have become more complex or not?
BOK is in response to the increasing complexity in our work due to good ol Lawyers of...
Honestly guys, other than the $400 fee, the SE II is not difficult. You get to do design problems within your specialty (bridge or building) and explain your answers. It's not the 6 minute/question multiple choice crap like the SE I.
There shouldn't be a need to "beat the system"
Lobsta,
I want to make sure I understand you correctly. ASCE is purposely trying to put downward pressure on Civil Engineers' salaries?
One of the reasons why I asked this question was because a very highly regarded professor made a comment that a goal of ASCE's was to keep engineers salaries...
To the civil engineers out there, how well do you feel ASCE represents the profession? What do they do well, and what not?
What do you wish they could do better?
I think throwing too much money at US infrastructure at once will be counter productive. States wont be able to manage the influx of projects, the contractor supply can only expand so quickly, and engineering can only produce so much at once. 2-3 years? That's what it takes to design some of...
I don't see anyone in this thread implying a grad degree be a direct ticket to an SE, nor is that the intent of ASCE 465.
Sorry to hear you feel your classes were a waste. I'd be angry too if I had to teach my classes. There's junk programs out there, but to discredit the entire education...