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  1. rickford

    PCB coil to replace hand wound coil.

    Ok, that makes sense. Well, thank you all that contributed. I'm about ready to commit to a layout so I guess here goes...
  2. rickford

    PCB coil to replace hand wound coil.

    What is waste stream volume?
  3. rickford

    PCB coil to replace hand wound coil.

    I have done some more experimenting with resonance and a function generator. This is what I have so far... The PCB coil: Tuned resonant frequency with .15uF cap in parallel, 31kHz. Calculated inductance based on resonance and known capacitor in parallel, 176uH. Q of tank circuit, about .55...
  4. rickford

    PCB coil to replace hand wound coil.

    Note on the pdf that the 4 inner layers are used for the coil. There is no copper on the top and bottom layers except for the via's and the connection pads. This is done this way to protect the coil in case it momentarily rubs while spinning during setup.
  5. rickford

    PCB coil to replace hand wound coil.

    Try this...http://files.engineering.com/getfile.aspx?folder=bf413f23-0dfd-46fc-8973-29b6fcd3fc82&file=CoilBoard.pdf
  6. rickford

    PCB coil to replace hand wound coil.

    Well, I guess that didn't work. Looking for another way...
  7. rickford

    PCB coil to replace hand wound coil.

    This is about the best I can do with the program I have. See attached pdf file.
  8. rickford

    PCB coil to replace hand wound coil.

    If this is true, then you may have hit on the problem... though I have trouble seeing why it would be true. The layout is this... looking down on the board, a imagine a connection point at 12:00 position. The connection point is 2 terminals. From the right connection, a trace travels upward...
  9. rickford

    PCB coil to replace hand wound coil.

    Yes, the current should be running in the same direction, as the loops all go around the circle in the same direction. I don't have an inductance meter, but I did put each into a tank circuit and using a function generator and a scope, I measured the resonance frequency and solved for the...
  10. rickford

    PCB coil to replace hand wound coil.

    I have a hard time getting my head around the minute details of this. If the field doesn't pass through the copper, then how does the copper know it's there? Magnetics was not my strongest class back in school. It's as if the wire has an invisible lever arm sticking out and the magnetic flux...
  11. rickford

    PCB coil to replace hand wound coil.

    I found a calculation of AC resistance due to skin effect, and it was minimal, assuming I did it right. Only a couple ohms.
  12. rickford

    PCB coil to replace hand wound coil.

    Interesting that you suggest staggering the coils like that. That's exactly what I don't have. Right now, all 4 layers lay right on top of one another so that you can see right through the gaps. What happens to the magnetic flux as it passes through one of the copper layers? Is it...
  13. rickford

    PCB coil to replace hand wound coil.

    BTW, the relative permeability of FR4 is 1, so I think this supports the idea that FR4 is not creating any more losses than the air wound coil.
  14. rickford

    PCB coil to replace hand wound coil.

    No, I didn't think there would be any losses there. It doesn't seem to be magnetic in any way, and it's not conductive, so I don't have to worry about eddy current losses.
  15. rickford

    PCB coil to replace hand wound coil.

    I have a small circuit that runs on the secondary coil. It rectifies the power from the coil and filters it to get a clean DC power supply. The power supply working range is anywhere from 6.5V to 25V. With the hand wound coil, I can tune the power circuit up to provide as much as 25VDC (at...
  16. rickford

    PCB coil to replace hand wound coil.

    Diameter of .026 gage wire, .015". Cross sectional area, .0002sq". Thickness of 1oz copper, .0014". Width of copper trace, .010". Cross sectional area, .000014sq". .0002/.000014 = 14.3, which is about right.
  17. rickford

    PCB coil to replace hand wound coil.

    The DC resistance is high because the PCB traces don't have anywhere near the cross sectional area that the 26 gage wire has. I can put the PCB coil in almost exactly the same location as the hand wound coil. Compared to the size of the u-shaped ferrite, the coil width/depth size isn't so...
  18. rickford

    PCB coil to replace hand wound coil.

    They are the same diameter. The hand wound coil is wound "tightly" with normal (round) 26 gage magnetic wire, so each winding is very close to the next. With the PCB, there are air gaps between the copper that are a fair bit bigger than the spacing between the copper of the hand wound coil...
  19. rickford

    PCB coil to replace hand wound coil.

    I have an application in which I am transferring power from a stationary device to a device that is rotating. The device that is stationary outputs an alternating magnetic field at 26kHz (sine wave) using a U shaped ferrite. The device that is rotating has a large, 7" diameter, coil wound in...
  20. rickford

    printer cartridge memory

    Epson uses a chip on each of their inkjet cartridges that tells the printer that the cartridge is empty, thus preventing refilling. Does anyone have any ideas what kind of chip is on this cartridge and what format the info is in inside the chip. I'm assuming it's an EEPROM of some kind but...

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