Haha. If I read between the lines here it sounds like you're implying that both FCF's would mean the same thing and the multi-segment callout I attached is in fact valid. Therefore, a datumless position tolerance essentially acts like a FRTZF.
There are no examples within the 2009 standard showing multi-segment position tolerances with the lowest segment containing no datum references. Are you saying it is valid to have the lowest segment contain no datum references?
From my understanding, the only cases where it is valid to not...
Simple yes or no question (hopefully).
Is it valid to combine the use of multi-segment and composite position tolerances?
See attached file. Let me know if seeing the actual part would be of any...