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Grounding of sub-transmission insulator bases

stevenal

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Please see thread 483294

I cannot believe I asked about this 24 years ago. A little more than idle curiosity today as I'm looking into a specific event. Consider a wooden H-frame structure. 69 kV three wire on suspension insulators hanging from the upper crossarm, 12470 four wire on the arm below. No static line. Practice is to ground the distribution neutral at every structure, so every structure has a pole ground. Would you run the ground up and out the upper crossarm to bond the 69 kV insulator bases? Why or why not? Thanks.
 
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Yes I would ground the bases.
Leakage current through insulator bases has conducted through damp wood and caused cross arm fires.
 
I fixed the link above.

Waross,
Thanks for the feedback. Shouldn't we be bonding the distribution post insulator bases as well then? I note that in the linked thread, Bacon4life spoke of bonding to prevent fire at much higher voltage and tighter spacing.
 
Some design standards assume that the wood crossarm provides additional insulation resistance. Back in days of ceramic bell insulators, it was also sometimes a thing to add an extra bell to a string of insulators connected to a grounded base as compared to a wood arm. Before making a wholesale change to your practices, it may be worth doing an insulation coordination study to ensure additional bonding does not cause flashovers.

For a typical 15 kV distribution wood/fiberglass crossarm, there is a 2 foot or more gap between the phase conductor and anything grounded. If you bond the base of the insulators, this gap is reduced to less than 1 ft. This reduced gap increases the likelihood of animal contact. Additionally, having a ground wire run along the crossarm increases the risk of line-to-ground fault during live line maintenance.

I live in a very low lightning area. For high lightning areas, utilities often are very careful about routing of ground wires to avoid back flashovers.
 
bacon4life,

The line to ground fault I mentioned recently in another thread, we believe was caused by a streamer. The circuit tripped and reclosed with no outage, but the voltage sensitive customer was not happy. Seems to me the grounded 69 kV insulator base close to the conductor might be increasing the odds of a streamer fault. Our system is likewise in a low lightning area. We over-insulate using polymer suspension insulators, bond the bases to the pole ground, and of course wildfires are an increasing concern.
 
Poop, not lightning. Weather was clear and the birds were out.
 

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