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    Shaft Critical Speed Calculator Based on Melvin prohls Method

    Modern formulas for statics and dynamics: A stress-and-strain approach BY PILKEY AND CHANG is a good source for transfer matrix methods. Walt Pilkey had a set of pregrams. E. G. Pestel and F. A. Leckie, Matrix Methods in Elasto-Mechanics is great to understand the approach. Regards, Bill
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    water-film bearing with "precompressed" water ?

    Pressure can make a difference. Look for hydrostatic radial bearings. Does this 'bearing' have a high axial flow component? Regards, Bill
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    Hunting tooth

    The Euclidean Algorithm (and is found in Eulid’s Elements) is very efficient for finding this. Regards, Bill
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    4-Run Method of Balancing

    I would recommend hiring a professional that allow you to follow what they do, a professional who doesn't use the 4 run method. The 4 run method is very inefficient, and if you have to trim balance you have to start over with another 4 runs. If something changes, keeping track of phase and...
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    Vibration

    Burnishing uniformly work hardens the surface, which can help. Some have tried micro-peening for a similar purpose. Some materials can be come magnetized. Some machining operations can leave the target material non-uniformly magnetized. This requires de-Gaussing. Hit the target with a...
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    Negative Frequency?

    'If a shaft/rotor is perfectly balanced' There's the rub, so to speak. This is impossible. Besides, there are other forces to consider. A perfect circle is unlikely, also. Support asymmetry split the natural frequencies, so do gyroscopic effects. If the x and y dominating natural...
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    Damped versus undamped critical speed calculations

    Adding damping to the model as in modal damping depresses the frequency. Adding point occurrences of damping, changes the model. Regards, Bill
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    Damped versus undamped critical speed calculations

    It looks like the extra damping at point locations (bearings) in this case is further constraining the shaft at the bearings, meaning greater strain energy ==> greater natural frequency. The rigid shaft was to prevent modeshape changes. Different combinations of shaft to bearing stiffness...
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    Damped versus undamped critical speed calculations

    For the system you give I believe that damping interacts slightly with the modeshape to give this effect. The attached file runs a case that the modeshape remains almost the same (by forcing the rotor to be rigid), and the case with the flexible rotor. Regards...
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    Damped versus undamped critical speed calculations

    Run the analysis without damping, and you should still see the bifrication of the forward and backward modes. Add damping and see. Also, you could turn gyroscopics off and see the effect in the modes. I assume you have an overhung rotor for which gyroscopics has a large effect. Regards, Bill
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    Damped versus undamped critical speed calculations

    The forward whirl frequencies being higher than the undamped forward frequencies does not relate to damping; this is caused by a gyroscopic effect. Regards, Bill
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    Damped versus undamped critical speed calculations

    The damped natural frequency for a single degree of freedom system is sqrt(1-zeta^2)*undamped frequency, where zeta is the critical damping ratio. So, the damped frequency is lower than the un-damped. Also, as you approach critical damping the frequency goes to 0. A critically damped (root)...
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    Vibration limits for GE turbine generator

    Have you looked in the turbine manuals? Hopefully, you will have the resources of mechanical and vibration people to assist you. You mention trip, which makes the monitor have a control function. This gets more serious than if it is just a monitor. ISO may give some guidance, but you need to...
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    "Interpolating" to estimate exact frequency of peak from FFT results

    Do you think they incorporate the phase values in the calculation? These are available to those who calculate the fft. Regards, Bill
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    critical speed for uniform shaft including gyroscopic effects

    Rao's (and others) book on rotordynamics talks about this, as I recall. Gyroscopics, tends to raise the forward 'criticals' and lower the backwards ones. The equations end up with (It-Ip) terms for the cross terms in the equations of motion. The It is the transverse inertia term) - The Ip...

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