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    high vibrations synchronous motor under reciprocating loads

    Electricpete I share hereby some figures that can illustrate the difference in stiffness or rigidity between Motor and compressor bearing On the left side the NDE end which vibrates. string reduction by a tapered section, followed by a long distance to the bearing not shown: details of...
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    high vibrations synchronous motor under reciprocating loads

    Maybe final update after some work on site and evaluation After presentation of results to involved parties it seems to be mutually agreed that existing vibration levels are acceptable without further hardware changes I share hereby some excerpts of the report and some facts about the...
  3. RRUUEE

    high vibrations synchronous motor under reciprocating loads

    Update: measurement campaign finished Report is created no specially high excitations are found coming from compressor side as torsional or bending load with high frequencies only raised noise floor detected Problem identified as a resonating bearing housing a fix will be tried out...
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    high vibrations synchronous motor under reciprocating loads

    The compressor type is recently installed in similar cases and run without problems, but with other motors. I can't tell if the now used motor type Has references under same operation conditions. I will check if we can share additional info
  5. RRUUEE

    high vibrations synchronous motor under reciprocating loads

    Electricpete thank for your Input we're still waiting for measured date form the field, before we can start with further Actions. I'm lacking still a good and sound hypthesis able to explain our peaks in spectrumn. So asymmetric stiffness looks like such an explanation term. you mean you...
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    high vibrations synchronous motor under reciprocating loads

    was you said is true we checked also for possible failures in model data or model of calculation. inertias and masses are somewhat easy to check, the most unreliable part is the stiffness of the complex system. what we can not explain the high peaks around 120 and 225Hz. the sheer height of the...
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    high vibrations synchronous motor under reciprocating loads

    thank for the Input. the mentioned points are right But maybe you get me wrong, we havent replaced old motors, we're faced with the problem form the begin on. new motor should tell only we can exclude wear phenoma.
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    high vibrations synchronous motor under reciprocating loads

    for your curiosity: the torque oscillations were calculated by simulation program (not measured in the field yet). The spectrum is more or less normal for a 4 crank machine. Depending on the different masses and compression curves for each stage one can expect also 3rd and 5th order. 3 can we...
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    high vibrations synchronous motor under reciprocating loads

    the recip load comes from a reciprocating compressor which typically generates a series of frequencies acc. FFT Mto= 120.155 kN Mt=Mt0+SUM[Mt(j)*COS[j*ABS(w)*t-phi(j)]] ord. j Freq [Hz] Mt(j) [kNm] Mtj/Mto [%] phi(j) [deg] 1 7.5 33.727 28.07% 235.6 2 15 5.754 4.79% 62.5 3 22.5...
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    high vibrations synchronous motor under reciprocating loads

    We will start a measurement campaign in the field to analyse more closely the origin of the higher frequencies around 120 and 240Hz For us it's still not clear if the harmonics point more to an mechanical or an electrical issue (if such an differentiation is meaningful). That's why we placed...
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    high vibrations synchronous motor under reciprocating loads

    During operation we experienced high vibration on the pedestal at nde side on new installed 6MW Motor, single bearing type, running speed 450RPM. Harmonic spectrum showed peeks at 7.5 and 22.5Hz that can be explained by bending exciatation 1st and 3rd Order. The calculated bending frequency of...

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