For all those that are skeptical of the adjustments to USHCN, did you read Menne et al 2009, Karl et al 1986/7/8 or Vose et al 2003 (full papers available for free online) prior to forming your opinion?
You may treat this question literally or rhetorically.
I’m also not insinuating that you...
I’d also like to return to your response 29 Jul 16 00:39. My response to it didn’t do it justice, so I’ll be more thorough.
Heller/Goddard’s concluding slide states, “"climate data is being manipulated to increase climate alarm". Half of his presentation is on global temperature data sets...
You asked “how can 60 year old data get changed?”. I answered - TOB. You waved your hands and said “but how come no one noticed it before!”. So I provided this illustration to help you understand that sometimes TOB might not be apparent until you review the data closer and compare against...
I asked you, "do you feel that temperature data was manipulated to fake warming globally?" You responded with, "WATCH THE DAMN VIDEO and form your next question based on what he said, not what you want him to have said."
So I did. He starts by talking about USHCN (which I've addressed in...
zdas04,
Let’s return to my example. This time I will show you graphically, using simulated data, the impact of changing my observation times from the PM to the AM.
For the first 50 points, I take my measurement in the afternoon. On point 51, I start taking my measurement in the morning. Here...
And I wasn't asking Tony Heller/Steve Goddard for his answer, I was asking you. You've said that the purpose of you posting the video was to illustrate the "manipulation" of data. You said the "manipulation" was always in "the same direction". I can assume you insinuated in the warming...
60 years ago I measure temperature in the afternoon and store that number in the database. At the time that number is correct. At some point I start measuring temperature in morning and store that number in the database. Neither my old (PM) data or my new (AM) data is wrong but now comparisons...
Zdas04, do you believe temperature data was manipulated to fake the warming globally?
If yes, everything I've written is applicable. If not, then could you please clarify your position.
Also, providing something to supprt your hand waving might be helpful. Your last paragraph is just random...
On a micro-level (single station moves, for example) the corrections go up and down. So overall corrections are minimal and have no observable trend.
However, for systematic changes (such as going from buckets to ship hulls to buoys or going from PM readings to AM readings) the corrections will...
Zdas04,
How about you read the article I linked (here again). It explains, in detail and with supporting evidence, the chart. Or how about you address the simple mass balance reasoning.
Better yet, how about we return to the subject at hand – temperature data sets.
Zdas04, and the video he...
Of course they didn’t but they also weren’t caused by MAGIC! Past spikes in CO2 were usually massive volcanic action or bolide impacts. Orbital cycles can impact CO2 concentrations as well but that process takes thousands of year.
So what does you point say about the recent change in CO2...
Seaggie,
That’s a completely different topic and has already discussed. Search the last thread for where I talk about the argument “it’s natural” or “it’s changed before” (at 11 Jul 16 17:31, 12 Jul 16 15:48).
Claiming purposeful data manipulation to suite a specific narrative is a very...
Davefitz,
Again, off-topic but I suppose this is an attempt to disprove my statements made to FoxRox, which it does not. So obviously some clarification is needed.
The research does not validate Svensmark’s hypothesis – the research says that GCRs appear to impact clouds but it does not even...
zdas04,
(NOTE: When I wrote this I assumed you were talking about global temperatures, which would be relevant. After reading IRstuff’s response, it sounds like you might be talking about US data only, which is only 2% of the surface of the planet. If you want to claim global warming is fake...
No, I was not implying the money was in the form of paychecks (or going into his pocket); it was funding for research. If I was implying that the money went into his pocket I would have said "he was paid...".
My point was that there is lots of money available for a small set of contrarians and...
