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  1. Melon00

    Calculating specific gravity

    All: Update: I took a control valve engineering course at Fisher Controls just last week, and I asked the question regarding gas specific gravity. The instructor stated that gas specific gravity is normalized for air at standard conditions, regardless of inlet conditions. I referred him to the...
  2. Melon00

    Calculating specific gravity

    katmar, That is the same definition as in the 4th ed of the handbook. Now that I think about it, I think he did say both at standard conditions, I just didn't catch it, because my attention was so focused on the air requirements. Thanks for taking the time to look it up in the handbook. They...
  3. Melon00

    Calculating specific gravity

    katmar, I took your advice and spoke to a Fisher rep on this subject, since I am referencing Fisher equations. He said that specific gravity is the ratio of the densities of your fluid to air or water depending on your fluid's state. He then stated that the density of air is at standard...
  4. Melon00

    Calculating specific gravity

    athomas: Thanks for the specific definition and referencing your source of information. Is your interpretation, the same as quarks directly above? Meaning, you don't think that the specific gravity is going to change under different pressure and temperature conditions?
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    Calculating specific gravity

    quark: "Gas SG can't be the ratio of gas density at actual conditions to air density at standard condition. In that case gas SG closely follows its actual density as the air density at standard conditions is about 1.2 bar." I am assuming you meant 1.2 kg/m³, and not 1.2 bars for the density of...
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    Calculating specific gravity

    jmw: I don't really have a choice on using specific gravity. I am trying to calculate the maximum flow through a regulator at wide-open conditions. Fisher controls has a website full of equations dedicated to this...
  7. Melon00

    Calculating specific gravity

    Homayun, I agree with you. Katmar, could you provide a link to your reference for the definition of specific gravity.
  8. Melon00

    Calculating specific gravity

    Thanks to all that posted a reply, this helps a lot. I wouldn't have put two and two together about the molecular weight and density being directly proportional. I would have thought that the density would be affected by pressure on compressible fluids, and molecular weight would not be...
  9. Melon00

    Calculating specific gravity

    I thought it was the density of the vapor versus the density of air, is this not the case? Either way, I would assume dry air at standard conditions, correct? If so, what IS the appropriate value of dry air at standard conditions, in USC units?
  10. Melon00

    Choked Flow vs. Critical Flow

    Okay, good. It sounds like critical flow is the same as choked flow. I was guessing that was the case, from the of the terms "choked" and "critical" used interchangeably in various texts.
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    Choked Flow vs. Critical Flow

    From what I see on the threads you speak of, the difference is that choked flow is when no more flow will go through your valve when decreasing the downstream pressure, with fixed inlet conditions, and critical flow is attributed with a pressure drop ratio (dP/P1) of 0.5 or higher. Correct?
  12. Melon00

    Calculating specific gravity

    Yes, United States Customary (USC) units, i.e. feet, pounds, gallons.
  13. Melon00

    Calculating specific gravity

    How do you calculate the specific gravity of a vapor, using USC units?
  14. Melon00

    Choked Flow vs. Critical Flow

    Can anyone explain the difference between choked flow and critical flow, if there is one?

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