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Meggering
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Meggering

Meggering

(OP)
megger, meggered, meggering

I really hate it when people tell me they meggered something.  Maybe I'm just picky.  I'm sure Megger(R) love it and other test set companies hate it.

(R) - Registered Trademark

I love it when people conduct other tests (power factor, high potential) with their Megger brand test equipment.

QCE

RE: Meggering

That's the fate of of brands that become generics.
Hoover; hoovering, to hoover
er,....
Mental blank and no more generics to offer you to console you. Sorry, but I'm sure the other guys and gals will picth in with a heap of them.

I need another coffee....

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RE: Meggering

"Please Xerox that report for me."  Regardless if the coppier you are using is built by Cannon.

Ray Reynolds
"Computers in the future may weigh no more than 1.5 tons."
Popular Mechanics, forecasting the relentless march of science, 1949
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RE: Meggering

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I recall reading a letter to the editor in a humor magazine a number of years ago. Apparently they had made reference in their magazine to a "styrofoam coffee cup". A representative of the manufacturer wrote a rather terse letter informing the magazine that "styrofoam" is a registered trademark for only a few specific products, and its use in reference to coffee cups was improper.

The magazine editor replied (and its been a long time, so this is a very rough quote, that fails to do justice to the actual reply), "We Xeroxed your letter and Scotch-taped it to all of the bulletin boards in the building. Some people were so upset that we had to go out and buy extra boxes of Kleenex.

RE: Meggering

also windsurfer, biro, google (google it...) spring to mind.

Bung
Life is non-linear...

RE: Meggering

Ouch, I need a Band-Aid.

Or, the ubiquitous PC...

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     Another example: "TetraPak", for any liquid food (milk, fruit juice, etc.) paperboard packaging. It is sometimes used here in Italy: is it the same worldwide?
     See:  http://www.tetrapak.com .

Bye, 'NGL
        

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(OP)
Tetrapak is used in Canada and apparently in Italy.

I would doubt it however if most none technical people would know what a megger was.

RE: Meggering

     I agree with QCE: more information is needed about "Megger", for us non-electrical guys  
     For example, click on http://www.avointl.com/uk/index.asp

Bye      

RE: Meggering

(OP)
Sorry Megger is a company that is famous for making insulation resistance test sets.  It has actually become so popular that people refer to an insulation resistance test as a megger test and they megger things (like generators/ motors and cables).  I'm just saying that it is funny that technical people use the term megger even when they us other companies test sets.  I also find it funny when they use a Megger brand reley test set and then wonder what the deal is with meggering.  

RE: Meggering

Another example in a technical area is proximity probes for measuring shaft vibration in turbines and compressors, are always refered to as "Bently's". Which I am sure drives the folks at SKF, Metrix, IRD, and other manufacturers crazy.

How about a "Crecent" wrench. I know my adjustable spanner is made by "Craftsman", but when I send my son to the tool box I tell him to grab a "Crecent" wrench.

RE: Meggering

Or E-Lox to refer to sinker EDM.

RE: Meggering

Loc-tite is another brand turned generic-use term.

Ray Reynolds
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Popular Mechanics, forecasting the relentless march of science, 1949
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RE: Meggering

Crescent wrench - good one sms. I'm also in the habit of referring to Channel-locs which is also a trade name. I don't even know what I'd call the actual tool.

RE: Meggering

CRESCENT WRENCH
My friend from the South (US) calls it a "fit-all".
He had to explain that to me, once.

Buy a dictionary, keep it nearby and USE it. Webster's New World Dictionary of American English is recommended, and Webster's Collegiate Dictionary.

RE: Meggering

As a young engineering co-op at a refinery in west Texas I noticed that the operations staff would routinely send the co-ops to the tool room to get a "metric crescent wrench". They thought is was extremely funny, as did the tool room staff. I didn't fall for it since my Dad had been sending me to the tool box for years to get him his Crescent wrench (which by the way was really made by Crescent) so I got the joke. But more than a few college kids dutifully headed for the tool room.

My wife who apprenticed as a jet engine mechanic was more precisely trained. The first time I asked her to hand me a "Crescent wrench" she asked what is that? When I explained she said "oh you mean the adjustable wrench, why didn't you say so..."

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For some reason, these adjustable wrenches are collectvely known as "Monkey wrenches" in the UK, or they were. Whether that should refer to a specific type of wrench, I couldn't say. I doubt there was a company of that name though.

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RE: Meggering

Incidentally, this thread is hybridising the "Bad brand names" thread and the "Verb formation" thread (if any one cares) so good material in all three.

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RE: Meggering

Our shop has a metric cresent wrench - standard adjustable wrench, but with a ruled indicator showing wrench opening in millimeters.  

Now I've seen everything...

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btrueblood,
Someone should buy one of those metric graduated adjustable wrenches and give it to the tool crib where they keep sending the new guys.

In the U.S. a monkey wrench is an adjustable open end wrench with the jaws perpindicular to the handle.

Cat
Hyster
Towmotor
Frigidaire
allen wrench  to name a few.

Jesus is THE life,
Leonard

RE: Meggering

Philips (plus, in Japan, someone said)

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RE: Meggering

Philips! Good Fedex me!

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In Canada a square drive screwdriver is often called a "Robertson" after its inventor P.L. Robertson, and his comany, Robertson-Whitehouse.

They are also often colour coded by size ("Hey! Pass me a red-robbie!")... At least the ones I have are

-Mark

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In Australia a "Crescent Wrench" is a "shifting spanner" and "adjustable joint pliers" are "Multi grips"

Jeff

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(OP)
Justkeepgiviner,

I have a story that is not my own:

This is really weird -- brace yourself: there's a special kind of screw and screwdriver used almost exclusively in Canada -- not even in England or Australia.  It's called a Robertson, but only Canadians know that.

Once, in Manhattan, I was in a hotel lobby while a UPS guy by the concierge desk was trying to open a crate sent from Canada.  He was having no success, so I looked at the screw heads, and they were Robertsons, so I said, "Those are Robertson screws.  You'll need a Robertson screwdriver for that."

"No we won't."  The concierge went into the room out back, brought out a crowbar and said, "Here in New York we call those things crowbar screws."  He then jimmied open the crate.

Special thanks to Douglas Coupland for the story!

RE: Meggering

In California we called it a speed-wrench.  In Illinois they called it a crank-wrench (I just made that up because of lack of memory) or some such thing and in West Virginia they call it a spinner.

Jesus is THE life,
Leonard

RE: Meggering

Hi,

Coming back to the original posting (about Meggering). I hate to be the bore that reminds you that the company name was constructed from Megohm Meter, which was their first and only instrument for a long time.

I see no harm in making a short verb out of "megohm metering" if you want to describe the action of measuring megohms. Which goes to say that I am not so sure that the word "meggering" stems from the brand name. Both can have evolved from the "megohm metering" root.

Anyone got the full story behind the brand name?

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Digger242J  I liked that post about (Xerox, Kleenex).  Here in one of our larger hospital’s I found a room that the title on the door as "Xeroxing room"

I wonder how many copier units inside that room are Cannon or Minlota?

My niece had never used a phone with a rotary dial in her home or elseware.  One time while visting at our house she wanted to make a call and had to ask how our phone worked (With the rotary dial face).  With digital clocks how long before nobody knows what Clockwise rotation was?

RE: Meggering

Toolmantwo, I bet you still use your slide rule, too!

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Poke fun at toolmantwo all you want, but I've never had a rotary phone quit working for no apparent reason.

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really...?

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Talking of getting off-topic.

I use my REISS 3227 slide rule ever so often. I see no problem in that. Convenient in many situations when the HP 48 is in the other room.

I noticed that slide rules are getting more and more expensive - if you can find them at all. Antiques, maybe?

RE: Meggering

RE: Digital Watch.

Roger, control.
Traffic at my 5 o'clock position.
UH, could you be more specific...I'm wearing my digital watch.

RE: Meggering

I use Channelocks, Kleins, Crescent and Allen wrenches, a Xerox, Kleenex, a Megger, an Amprobe, a Skillsaw, a Wiggy and my Thermos. Some of these particular brand-named items are still the best available (particularly Channelocks).
I don't Google.  (but I occasionally gargle).

I don't use those terms with people who aren't familiar with them, but I'd say most people in my trade know what these are, and some of them would really take some thought to refer to differently. Really they're abbreviations of sorts.

"Meggered it" is a lot simpler than "used an analog meter and measured the insulation resistance".

I think "Xerox" has got to be the winner of turning a brand-name noun into a verb though.

remember: An opinion is only as good as the one who gives it!

RE: Meggering

how about fluke?  as in "just a fluke?"

RE: Meggering

You surely heard of John Fluke mfg Co?

RE: Meggering

I have, but I've ohmed and metered things, but never fluked them.  Of course, I'm not a whale either

TTFN

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Kleenex

Linoleum

Aspirin

To name a couple of product names that have become common words.

When I worked around airports we would never send a newbie for a metric crescent wrench. They were too busy getting a couple gallons prop wash and 100 ft of flight line.




Rick Kitson MBA P.Eng

Construction Project Management
From conception to completion
www.kitsonengineering.com

RE: Meggering

I just thought it interesting that a company making measurement equipment would share a name with erroneous measurements...  as in "My Fluke multimeter shows 15V, but that's not possible, so it must be a fluke."

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There is a transport company named Fluke as well. I see their trucks on the Highway all the time, with their motto:

"If it makes it there on time, it's a Fluke!"

I also thought of this thread the other day when my friend told me that she Febreezed her carpet to cover up the smell of cat pee.

-Mark

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