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Ralph2 (Industrial)
31 Mar 04 23:29
Hello
I have tried every which way yet can not resolve what "should" be a simple task. Our company has recently change its logo. I would like to add this to our title block. The image parts I have been able to convert via Adobe Illustrator by exporting to *.dwg. But the logo includes a red rectangle with the text SERVICES in white.
I can get black outlines of the text, I can get black text but try as I will can not get white text. It seems that as long as this is designated "text" it can be any color but white. Is there any way around this?
From Photoshop I can cut out the text leaving a hole so to speak, then copy that to Illustrator then to *.dwg and the "hole" shows white. This method works but when ploted on smaller paper the text (holes) loose the sharpness and detail.
Any help or advice??
Ralph
tomol (Electrical)
1 Apr 04 2:55
Hi,

I tested out what I belive your problem is but can't provoke my Acad to give me the same problem. I you want you can send me the files and I will see if there is anything I can do for you.

Regards,

Tom

tom@olsen.as
Exxit (Computer)
1 Apr 04 3:55
Ralph,

explode the text ( http://www.eng-tips.com/viewthread.cfm?SQID=60362&SPID=555&newpid=555&page=1 )-> hatch the rectangle with the "textlines"

Lothar
MarauderX (Mechanical)
1 Apr 04 17:43
Yeah, explode the text... not sure which version you are using so you may need to do it several times.  Then use a fill hatch for the inside of the text lines then delete them, leaving the white fill hatch on the red field.  Or you could select the text lines and trim the red field, then delete the text lines, leaving holes in the red field.  Keep in mind the black/white setting for viewing & plotting, as it will be opposite your background and may print differently.  
Whatever happens, make sure you put your copyrights into the logo somewhere, at like 1/100000 scale, behind other text/items where you know where you can find it when others want to 'borrow' it to create drawings that you have never seen.  
smcadman (Mechanical)
1 Apr 04 18:57
Make sure the screen background is black, so the text will be white.  Explode the text with "txtexp" from the Express Tools.  Use a white solid hatch for your text, and a red solid hatch for the rectangle.  
Use "saveimg" to save a bmp of your logo, and then import your bmp into your titleblock.  This way, it doesn't matter what your background screen color is, your text will remain white.  
You can use an image editor to crop out the screen background if necessary.  A free one is "Irfanview".
http://www.irfanview.com/

Flores
Ralph2 (Industrial)
1 Apr 04 22:30
Thanks for all the advice. Still can not make it work. SMCADMAN re the save logo as BMP. Tried that, works just great.. until you move the drawing to another computer, then all you get is a link to the now missing *.BMP. As a lot of our drawings are moved (and sent) this will not work. Unless there is a way to imbed the BMP into the drawing....
TOMOL.. thanks for the offer of having a look. If there is a way to add a drawing in this forum I am not aware of how to do it. Will send to it to your email address
Thanks All
Ralph
 
Exxit (Computer)
2 Apr 04 1:53
Ralph,

is Your logo complicated? So trce it, make a block, and You have no problems....

Lothar
Helpful Member!  IFRs (Petroleum)
2 Apr 04 5:31
Our logo is green text on a white background.  It has been saved as a jpg file and inserted into the drawing.  For the white background, we used an image editor and said that the white background was transparent.  In the jpg file, transparent becomes white.  We used Adobe to create the text and make it green, but any image editor could create text of any color and then you tell it that that color is to be the transparent one.  

This does not solve your problem of the image residing on the drive separate from the drawing and being imported into the drawing when the drawing is opened, unseccessfully if the image is not saved in the proper folder.  

Since Autocad can hatch a solid color now, you can draw the text or explode text to get boundaries and hatch solid white inside the text boundaries.  

Alternately, you can text white by changing it's color to 254,254,254 (white is 255,255,255).
IFRs (Petroleum)
2 Apr 04 6:42
More sugestions:
1) If the letters are simple, "draw" them using polylines of some width.  Do not draw the text outlines, just the strokes needed to make up the letters.  Then use a red polyline of another width for the background.  Use "DRAWORDER" to put the background in the "Back"  It should look OK on the drawing but may not print properly, depending on your printer and it's driver.

2) If you need to use an image file, put it on C:\ which is a folder everybody has.  Of course, you, your vendors and customers may not like having your logo on their drive.

3) Use an image file AND text with a border around it.  If someone does not have the image file, the text will show, and print.

4) Create the text outlines as closed ploylines and either hatch them or make them eD and subtract them from a larger background 3D object.  The color it red and the cutout portion will be "clear" which is white on a printer.  Of course, the text will look black if your Autocad background is black.
CADange (Electrical)
18 Oct 04 12:00
Sorry if this is the wrong place to post this. I can't seem to find reference to this issue anywhere else.

Our company has a similar issue with .bmps in certain blocks producing a text link when sent to other customers and vendors. We have resolved this issue within the company by creating the blocks with the linked .bmps located on our server so everyone can use the blocks without any issues. We still have issues when we send these blocks out to customers and vendors.

IFRs (Petroleum) mentioned placing the image on the C:\ drive. If I do this, and edit all of the affected blocks so that they look to the C:\ drive for the image, and if everyone has the .bmp on their C:\ drive, will everyone be able to view the .bmps, including customers etc.?

Is there a way to explode the bmp or embed it in the block so that we don't have to worry about someone cleaning their computer and accidently erasing the necessary .bmps?

If this is addressed somewhere else in more detail, please let me know. I did try searching for this topic without any other success.

Thanks
Helpful Member!  borgunit (Mechanical)
18 Oct 04 14:04
http://www.cadforum.cz/cadforum_en/qaID.asp?tip=40...

"Everybody is ignorant, only on different subjects." — Will Rogers

CADange (Electrical)
18 Oct 04 14:25
Thanks borgunit!

I have never heard of the etransmit command before, and it was exactly what I needed!

Much appreciated
IFRs (Petroleum)
18 Oct 04 19:19
To solve the problem of customers not wanting to put our logo jpg file on their drive, or using etransmit, we put a simple "alternate" logo as bold block text on another layer.  If we know that the recipient will not copy a jpg to their hard drive, we just send the drawing with the jpg layer off and the block text layer on.  Our title block has two logos - one an image link and the other block text.  Not the greatest, but a decent compromise.
Exxit (Computer)
19 Oct 04 6:41
Hi,

I warn of using OLE-objects. Sometimes the problems are bigger than the convenience...

http://usa.autodesk.com/adsk/servlet/ps/kb?la=&...

Lothar

ADT 2004
ACAD 2002

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