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Disable Model changes in drawings - SW04
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Disable Model changes in drawings - SW04

Disable Model changes in drawings - SW04

(OP)
In all previous versions of SW we were always asked the question in the installation "Do you want to make drawing changes that will effect the model? Yes or No" (Or something to that effect). I always answered "Yes". Well due to everyone answering "Yes" (or at least 98% of them) to the question (According to Performace logs) SW took out this option in the installation. I wasn't aware of it until yesterday when I asked how do you change this. With SW help, we did find a way to change it. before we had to uninstall and reinstall to change this option, now you can change it via the registry.

Start\Run\regedit - HKEY_LOCAL_MACHINE\SOFTWARE\SolidWorks\SolidWorks 2004\General - "Disable model changes from drawings"

If you want this option to be able to change the model you need it to = 0 if you don't want the dimensions in a the drawing update the model the answer needs to be = 1

To change the option Double click "Disable model changes from drawings" and enter the number you desire in the data box.

I hope that helps some of you!

Regards,

Scott Baugh, CSWP
http://www.3dvisiontech.com
http://www.scottjbaugh.com

FAQ731-376

RE: Disable Model changes in drawings - SW04

Interesting .... & dangerous!

It's OK for a single user to be able to change the model from the drawing, but in a multi-user environment, that could lead to problems. Especially if the environment uses seperate designers & detailers. The detailer could too easily change something in the model without understanding all the ramifications of the change in other parts & assemblies.

from (the City of) Barrie, Ontario.

Everyone has a photographic memory. Some just don't have film.

RE: Disable Model changes in drawings - SW04

Scott thanks for the info, its much appreciated by those who want the function or choice.

RE: Disable Model changes in drawings - SW04

Thanks for the tip.  It is great to have the option available.  Here we would definitely not want to be able to change the model from the drawing.  I have not tested our set up yet. But am curious to know that if we have alway had set to no.  Would it have changed during the upgrade to 2004?

RE: Disable Model changes in drawings - SW04

OLID, Rocko, CorBlimeyLimey

Are you the 2%? I noticed what Sbaugh is refering when I first installed SW2004, but realy didn't care much because I belong to the 98%!

Never thought that it was an usefull option until reading the seperate designers & detailers reference. But what was realy strange for me, was the fact that I should reinstall to change the option!

Regards

RE: Disable Model changes in drawings - SW04

Nice to Scott.  I'm in the 2%!!  Going to change it now.

RE: Disable Model changes in drawings - SW04

Sorry should be nice to KNOW Scott.  I should have paid better attention in typing class.....

RE: Disable Model changes in drawings - SW04

macPT
Actually, at the moment, I'm in the 98% group, but only because I'm the only SW user where I work & it's handy to be able to change parts from within the drawings .... but thats only because I know the ins & outs of my own models/designs. The minute another user comes on board I will be changing that feature ... well ... on his/her computer anyway.

from (the City of) Barrie, Ontario.

Everyone has a photographic memory. Some just don't have film.

RE: Disable Model changes in drawings - SW04

I'm in the 2% !?

RE: Disable Model changes in drawings - SW04

Im 98 percent sure Im one of the 2 percent  :/

RE: Disable Model changes in drawings - SW04

macPT,
The company that I work for is in the 98% right now.  However we were in the 2% from day one on Solidworks 97.
The guys here probably have not noticed that we can make changes from the drawings simply because it has never been that way. CorBlimeyLimey is correct when he says that it is dangerous to have that option turned on when working a group atmosphere.  There are 6 engineers and 4 designers on our staff and making changes on a detail component could negatively impact existing designs using that particular model. No one would not even be aware of the downstream effects until an existing design is opened.

It is definitly better to be able to change that option now without having to re-install.

RE: Disable Model changes in drawings - SW04

Excelent TIP, have a star!

When dealing with computers, there are 10 things you need to know: one, zero, and the rest is Binary.
-Josh S

RE: Disable Model changes in drawings - SW04

Since we use SmarTeam PDM and the drafters do not normally check out the models (only copy), they can't change them anyway.  (Immediately you try to make a change to a model SmarTeam pops up and tells you can't unless you check it out.)  The only time they check out a model is if they need to create a new configuration say for an exploded view or such.  They do this separately and check the model back in before they start drafting.  So we kinda use the best of both worlds.

John Richards Sr. Mech. Engr.
Rockwell Collins Flight Dynamics

There are only 10 types of people in the world - those who understand binary and those who don't.

RE: Disable Model changes in drawings - SW04

JNR,
Are you talking about changing the model itself or changing the model by changing a dimension on the drawing?

When dealing with computers, there are 10 things you need to know: one, zero, and the rest is Binary.
-Josh S

RE: Disable Model changes in drawings - SW04

Yup, sorry I was confusing.  SmarTeam takes care of the changes from drawing by default - it just will not let you change a model without checking out the model, so it does not really matter to us which way the option is set.  If they need to change the model for a new config, etc. then they (in fact anyone changing a model) check out the model and change it there.  That may mean a drafter could check it out, open it from the drawing manager tree and, then check it in again while the drawing is open, but that's kind of irrelevant.  Most folk around here don't even realize that SW can change a model through drawing dims and as far as I am concerned that's fine. (And frankly, it appears that we don't use the model dims on drawing anyway... go figure!)  We always keep things checked in unless we are actually working on them.  Most people check everything in overnight and it is a requirement at end of week.

John Richards Sr. Mech. Engr.
Rockwell Collins Flight Dynamics

My photographic memory has lots of film - it's just getting old and foggy.

RE: Disable Model changes in drawings - SW04

Scott,
Do you have a regedit key that will stop SolidWorks 2004 sp3 from asking, “Models contained within the assembly have changed. Would you like to rebuild the assembly now?”
It does give me the option to: “Don’t tell me again in this session”. Which I always click.

Bradley

RE: Disable Model changes in drawings - SW04

(OP)
Sorry - That message is caused because something has changed. If your getting that message then it sounds to me like you have a large in-contexted assembly that has a circular reference.

Regards,

Scott Baugh, CSWP
http://www.3dvisiontech.com
http://www.scottjbaugh.com

FAQ731-376

RE: Disable Model changes in drawings - SW04

Scott,
I opened a clean assembly. Then opened one of the parts. Added a hole to that part. Then switched back to the assembly. The message “Models contained within the assembly have changed. Would you like to rebuild the assembly now?” came up again.
If I understand you right you are saying that you do not get this message after changing a part and then switching back to the assembly?

Bradley

RE: Disable Model changes in drawings - SW04

I'm not sure about this one (I'm also using SW01+)

HKEY_CURRENT_USER
>Software
>>SolidWorks
>>>SolidWorks XXXX    (mine is SolidWorks 2001Plus)
>>>>General
>>>>>Ask Regen   REG_DWORD     0x00000001 (1)
         (^Set to zero maybe?)

I'm to paranoid to experiment with this at work
But if someone else is Braver than I am, It would be nice to know if it works or not

Good Luck,
-Josh

When dealing with computers, there are 10 things you need to know: one, zero, and the rest is Binary.
-Josh S

RE: Disable Model changes in drawings - SW04

(OP)
I should clarify that this option can also be found under:

Start\Run\regedit - HKEY_CURRENT_USER\SOFTWARE\SolidWorks\SolidWorks 2004\General - "Disable model changes from drawings"

Bradley,

This cannot be hacked in the Registry. That's because that option is a per session option. In the registry it's either "Yes" or "No". Where as that option is a "Yes" or "No", but it's per session. So it's not written in the registry directly. It would be saved in SW per session.

Regards,

Scott Baugh, CSWP
http://www.3dvisiontech.com
http://www.scottjbaugh.com

FAQ731-376

RE: Disable Model changes in drawings - SW04

Wait a sec there Scott, what, per session? So does that mean if I am in a multi-user environment and they restart the computer, then that option is re-enabled back to Yes the drawing affects the original models?

Robert

RE: Disable Model changes in drawings - SW04

(OP)
This is over a year old....? I will try and help you out, but I don't have the time to sit down and read this enitre thread over.

Per session above looks like it means when a session of SW is opened.

I would say yes that is right, unless you change it per the registry path above.

Scott Baugh, CSWP
www.scottjbaugh.com
FAQ731-376

RE: Disable Model changes in drawings - SW04

I think the "Per Session" was dealing with the...

"Models In The Assembly Have Changed."

...Dialog, which is just a stupid notification, and should have never been created...
(It's in my "Duh!" List of annoying dialog boxes)
...which can only be turned off "Per Session"

The drawing/model changes should be permanent...

And per session means, as long as you have a running session...
Forget turning off your PC, if SW crashes, and you restart the program, the dialog box starts popping up again...
Not Like That Has Ever Happend Before... :-/

Unfortunatley, I have moved to Phoenix and Changed jobs...
So now I get to Fight AutoCAD, instead of dealing with SW's annoyances...
(AutoCAD's 3D SuX... I miss that dialog

-Josh

When dealing with computers, there are 10 things you need to know: one, zero, and the rest is Binary.
-Josh S

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