Copied CD's as Shop Drawings
Copied CD's as Shop Drawings
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Do you allow copies of your Construction Drawings to be submitted as shop drawings, from a steel fabricator, for example? Why or why not?
Thanks in advance.
Matt
Thanks in advance.
Matt






RE: Copied CD's as Shop Drawings
They might as well benefit from your labors as well. I actually will give them my cad files. Again, as long as release you from dimensional correctness.
RE: Copied CD's as Shop Drawings
RE: Copied CD's as Shop Drawings
RE: Copied CD's as Shop Drawings
If they are saving X dollars in not having to draft the thing, why not ask for their drafting fees? Short of that, shouldn't the owner be credited that fee (assuming it was in the bid)?
RE: Copied CD's as Shop Drawings
By asking for a small fee, we are usually just trying to recoup some fees for our time for writing our short contractual agreement, cleaning up the drawings, zipping them up, e-mailing, etc. - We aren't really trying to charge them drafting time. After all, they are a sub-contractor, who we usually like to stay on relatively good terms with for jobsite relations, future projects, etc.
RE: Copied CD's as Shop Drawings
RE: Copied CD's as Shop Drawings
RE: Copied CD's as Shop Drawings
The latter must be created from scratch and this is where the vast majority of "errors" are found and questions asked. The construction document plans are simply a map of where the pieces go so we usually allow them to copy our plans.
We do include a note on our plans:
THE STRUCTURAL DRAWINGS ARE NOT INTENDED FOR USE AS SHOP ERECTION DRAWINGS. REPRODUCTION OF THESE DRAWINGS IN LIEU OF PREPARATION OF SHOP ERECTION DRAWINGS SIGNIFIES THE USERS' ACCEPTANCE THAT ALL INFORMATION SHOWN IS CORRECT AND APPROPRIATE FOR SHOP DRAWINGS AND THAT THE USER WILL BE FULLY RESPONSIBLE FOR EXPENSES THAT MAY OCCUR FROM SAID ACCEPTANCE
RE: Copied CD's as Shop Drawings
I can tell you many times that CAD and new technology got us in trouble. A case in point, site plans were plotted with perfect boundaries and bearings. The plans were signed and sealed. The contractor insisted on using the CAD file so his surveyor with GPS can stake out the site.
Guess what! The CAD file was mistakenly rotated few seconds and thing did not fit! Fortunately, the problem was rectified. Now had not the surveyor used the legal singed and sealed hard copies, no fuss nor would delays have taken place.
I have many other problems with steel framing and dimensional conflicts to name... But I will spare every one.