Help with steering system calculations
Help with steering system calculations
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Ok, here's the question for all of you that I'm struggling to answer. The vehicle I'm currently working on is of a cab forward design, where the axles are all behind the cab. I'm trying to find equations which can be used to help me determine the phasing angles required in the system.
Right now, the steering wheel has a u-joint at the bottom connecting in to a 90* miter box. Another shaft leaves that box at a 30* angle (in 3-D space) passes through the cab floor, and then connects to another 90* box mounted behind and below the first (between the frame rails). There is then a 2nd shaft leaving the 2nd 90* box at a 10* horizontal angle (keeps the same height between the frame rails, but angles toward the center of the truck). From there it is supported by a bearing block and connected to a 3rd shaft which returns back to the steering gear with a 20* angle (again 3-D space) at the shaft 2/3 junction and a 15* angle entering the steering gear.
I'm having difficulty on calculating the phasing requirements due to the dual 90* boxes and would appreciate any assistance possible.
Thanks
Right now, the steering wheel has a u-joint at the bottom connecting in to a 90* miter box. Another shaft leaves that box at a 30* angle (in 3-D space) passes through the cab floor, and then connects to another 90* box mounted behind and below the first (between the frame rails). There is then a 2nd shaft leaving the 2nd 90* box at a 10* horizontal angle (keeps the same height between the frame rails, but angles toward the center of the truck). From there it is supported by a bearing block and connected to a 3rd shaft which returns back to the steering gear with a 20* angle (again 3-D space) at the shaft 2/3 junction and a 15* angle entering the steering gear.
I'm having difficulty on calculating the phasing requirements due to the dual 90* boxes and would appreciate any assistance possible.
Thanks





RE: Help with steering system calculations
A link to a resource I have found helpful in looking at U-Joint angles is here:
http://www1.mn.man.de/manted/aufbaurichtlinien/gb_f4.ht...
I recently had to solve a similar problem. I would recommend laying out the geometry in a CAD program (I use Pro/ENGINEER) and driving some geometric indicators from equations.
Good luck!
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Matthew Ian Loew
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RE: Help with steering system calculations
Cheers
Greg Locock
RE: Help with steering system calculations
Interested to hear how this worked out for you.
Best regards,
Matthew Ian Loew
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RE: Help with steering system calculations
Complicated, but the calculations appear to support that this will work. The vehicle will be going for it's maiden drive on June 15th, so I'll let you know.
RE: Help with steering system calculations
How did the vehicle work out?
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Matthew Ian Loew
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