problem running IDEAS NX 10m3 in windows xp
problem running IDEAS NX 10m3 in windows xp
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I just installed ideas nx 10 and then ideas 10m1 and ideas 10ms (ideas 10m2 is supposed to be included in ideas 10m3) as upgrades. I get the following message:
internal security error : -97
you can not connect to the IDEAS flexlm lock server. please review your license file and resource locking configuration.
Can anybody please help?
thank you
internal security error : -97
you can not connect to the IDEAS flexlm lock server. please review your license file and resource locking configuration.
Can anybody please help?
thank you





RE: problem running IDEAS NX 10m3 in windows xp
Windows XP pro
version 2002
service pack 1
RE: problem running IDEAS NX 10m3 in windows xp
RE: problem running IDEAS NX 10m3 in windows xp
Mine is a take home license at home in a PC.
How do I restart the flexlm server?
Do I need to do anything at work? The one at work is a standalone.
SDRC does not support the take home installation but they allow one free take home license , which is what I have.
The one at work is on windows 2000 but the one at home is on a windows xp. The problem is with the one at home.
Thank You
RE: problem running IDEAS NX 10m3 in windows xp
Can you check whether you have the FlexLm Manager installed as well on your home PC? I have the FlexLm Manager installed although my workstation is not the license server. You can check for the 'FlexLm Manager' icon in the control panel. Open the 'FlexLm Manager' and click 'stop' then 'start' in the 'control' tab. I never deal with home license before & not sure whether it works or not. Hope this help.
RE: problem running IDEAS NX 10m3 in windows xp
I tried that it did not work.Under diagnostic tab-connection, it can successfully connect to the server but under licenses tab -show license file- the command prompt (the black dos window) it opens just for a fraction of a second and then it closes. I can not read what it says because it goes away so fast. Does yours do the same thing?
thank you
RE: problem running IDEAS NX 10m3 in windows xp
Does IDEAS 10 require partitioning of hard drive or only one drive ie C: will work for windows XP?
thank you
RE: problem running IDEAS NX 10m3 in windows xp
I can read the license file correctly at the license server.
The following items may help to check for the problems:
1. are you selected 'full installation' during setup.
2. in the Flexlm Manager- setup tab, is the lmgd.exe, license file, log file path correctly directed to the related file in <installation drive:/SDRC/sec> folder
3. Edit the license file (sdrc_MsX.lic)in the <installation drive:/SDRC/sec> folder with notepad. Make sure the hostname in the 1st line is your actual PC name:
SERVER <your PC name> ... ...
4. open the 'lmtools' in the same folder, in service/license file tab, select 'configure using service', it should automatically set to flexlm license manager. in start/stop/reread tab, reread license file & restart the server. Perform checksum in the utilities tab, you should find your PC name appear as server.
5. Edit the following line in the setup_varbs file(in the SDRC/bin folder)
SDRC_MS9_LICENSE_FILE=7609@<your PC name>
make sure your PC name is correct.
The above prosedure is for my Ideas9 setup, but i think should not be big difference in ideas10. i prefer to setup ideas in a separate partition to prevent potential interference with other applications, but not sure whether it's really heal. Hope these will work.
RE: problem running IDEAS NX 10m3 in windows xp
In #5 when I try to edit it , it comes up in the prompt window and keeps scrolling and then it goes out. It does not allow me to edit it.
thank you
RE: problem running IDEAS NX 10m3 in windows xp
Do not open the setup_varbs file. just select the file & right-mouse click. select 'edit' from the RMC menu & the the content will be display in notepad. Edit the line & save the file & it's done.
RE: problem running IDEAS NX 10m3 in windows xp
Thank You
RE: problem running IDEAS NX 10m3 in windows xp
Thank You
RE: problem running IDEAS NX 10m3 in windows xp
On the Fat32, if it allows an install to happen, it's typically not a problem, though Fat32 is inherently less stable/robust than NTFS for a variety of reasons.
Your issue is with the licensing system, not anything else.
Have you discussed these issues with your admin from work?
BTW, this kind of issue can also be related to Firewall-type software you may have running (be sure all the various I-DEAS processes are granted FULL access to the internet, or it's likely NOT to work).
-e
RE: problem running IDEAS NX 10m3 in windows xp
Thank you for your help. I converted my hard drive file system from FAT32 to NTFS, removed IDEAS and then reinstalled it but still it does not work. In I-DEAS OPEN GL this is what I get:
'and' is not recognized as an internal or external command, operable program or batch file.
'C:\Documents' is not recognized as an internal or external command, operable program or batch file.
Somewhere the spaces between "Documents" and "and" and "and" and "Settings" in C:\Documents and Settings is not recognized by Enviroment Variables in the System . If I know where that Enviroment Variable is I can include it in quotation marks and it will work but I do not know where it is.
Thank You
RE: problem running IDEAS NX 10m3 in windows xp
I think you need to be aware that I-DEAS, at least as of IMS9, doesn't really like spaces in it's naming conventions (though underscores (_) instead will work fine).
Now, that may have changed with 10 (aka NX), but I would suggest you try uninstall, then reinstall it to some root directories (ie, c:\SDRC and c:\Team which were the defaults in IMS9, or similar)
FYI, this program came from Unix originally, where spaces are considered forbidden, so even if it works sometimes, you're likely to get bitten (and this applies generally when using any program that runs on non-Windows OS's).
Worst case, we can look through the various config files, but that likely won't help if your install locations require the spaces in your filenames/locations/etc.
BR,
-ed
RE: problem running IDEAS NX 10m3 in windows xp
This is where I have I-DEAS10 installed by default:
C:\EDS\I-DEAS10\
Thanks for your help
RE: problem running IDEAS NX 10m3 in windows xp
Then double check to see that any of the other config files (ie, text that's readable by Notepad) in your C:\Team\Master and in ...\Config sub-directory are clean of any references to any directories with spaces in the name. BTW, and *param* files in C:\Team\Master can simply be deleted to reset users to 'system defaults' (ie, the ones listed in the config sub-directory).
Worst case you may end-up where Rod is now
RE: problem running IDEAS NX 10m3 in windows xp
In my LMTOOLS under server status this is what I get:
"eds_id10: The desired vendor daemon is down
1) Check the lmgrd log file, or 2) Try lmreread
Feature: FLEXLM_RL
Vendor:Host: J7L1Q9
License path: 7610@J7L1Q9
FLEXlm error: -97,121
Feature usage info:
Users of FLEXLM_RL: Cannot get users of FLEXLM_RL: No such feature exists
Feature: FLEXLM_RL
License path: 7610@J7L1Q9
FLEXlm error: -5,222
thank you all
RE: problem running IDEAS NX 10m3 in windows xp
thank you for ur help.
Here is a copy of my license file:
SERVER J7L1Q9 00B0D0E965E5 7610
DAEMON eds_id10 C:\EDS\I-DEAS10\sec\ options=C:\EDS\I-DEAS10\sec\eds_id10.opt
INCREMENT FLEXLM_RL eds_id10 10 permanent 2147483647 8C1ADF94E5AB
PACKAGE CoreMasterModeler eds_id10 10 8F1A3ADD1A48 \
COMPONENTS="MasterModeler_C MaterialDataSystem_C \
3D_IGES_Translator_C RPT_Translator_C VDA_Translator_C \
SET_Translator_C IDEAS_Plotting_C"
FEATURE CoreMasterModeler eds_id10 10 14-feb-0 1 6F670B2D8981
FEATURE SurfacingSet eds_id10 10 14-feb-0 1 CC265FA431A0
PACKAGE SimulationModelingSet eds_id10 10 E77006BA8F39 \
COMPONENTS="FEM ExtendedFEMandBeam_S"
FEATURE SimulationModelingSet eds_id10 10 14-feb-0 1 8888CECFD72D
PACKAGE SimulationSolutionSet eds_id10 10 9CCD3075BB03 \
COMPONENTS="ModelSolutionLinear Optimization QManServer \
QManClient_S"
FEATURE SimulationSolutionSet eds_id10 10 14-feb-0 1 D303553AAB6B
FEATURE ModelSolutionNonlinear eds_id10 10 14-feb-0 1 724842D1E6C7
FEATURE ResponseAnalysis eds_id10 10 14-feb-0 1 7AC3D8A3706C
FEATURE MasterNotation eds_id10 10 14-feb-0 1 F062609E5159
FEATURE TakeHomeLicenseUtility eds_id10 10 14-feb-0 1 78395B853D5C
FEATURE VRMLAnnotation eds_id10 10 14-feb-0 1 245B0BB1740A
# You can edit the hostname on any SERVER line (1st arg),
# the port address on any SERVER line (3rd arg), the path
# to the daemon on the DAEMON line (2nd arg), or any
# right-half of a string (b) of the form a=b where (a) is all
# lowercase. (For example, xxx in vendor_info="xxx" can be
# changed). Any other changes will invalidate this license.
help is appreciated
RE: problem running IDEAS NX 10m3 in windows xp
did you try rebooting?
your license file looks fine.
do you have the XP firewall enabled?
-e
RE: problem running IDEAS NX 10m3 in windows xp
I rebooted.
My fire wall is disabled.
thank you
RE: problem running IDEAS NX 10m3 in windows xp
You should take a look in the security logs (under your install dir [ie, in c:\EDS\I-DEAS10\sec], just use Notepad to review the files...just don't edit anything)
There may be some more clues in there.
Also, were you given a permanent license for this machine or one with a timeout? Did you 'generate' it on this machine? If so, was it after your last install of the SW?
Did you do any editing of any of the files in the sec directory since your last install/license generation?
Is the name of your machine J7L1Q9?
-ed
RE: problem running IDEAS NX 10m3 in windows xp
I have checked all above. it is a perpetual license that was generated in this machine. I think the problem is one of the 3:
1.The desired vendor daemon is down.
2.hostid. how do i get my hostid?
3.Resource locking
thank you
RE: problem running IDEAS NX 10m3 in windows xp
My machine is set to 000000000000
thank you
RE: problem running IDEAS NX 10m3 in windows xp
try plugging your network connection back in b4 trying to get the hostid (it's from the NIC).
afterwards, try running lmtools.exe (ok to click the icon) under the sec dir, then make sure to click the 'config. using services'. Then pick the 'start/stop/reread' tab, and try starting the license server.
-ed
RE: problem running IDEAS NX 10m3 in windows xp
Can you please elaborate on:
"try plugging your network connection back in b4 trying to get the hostid (it's from the NIC)."
I do not know how to get to NIC.
In some of ur previous responces you had references to BTW and SW . What do these stand for?
In my LMTOOLS-system settings-Ethernet Address I have 000000000000. Is Ethernet Address the same as hostid?
This is what i get in my security log file:
(eds_id10) Wrong hostid on SERVER line for license file: (eds_id10) C:\EDS\I-DEAS10\sec\EDS_ID10.lic
(eds_id10) SERVER line says 00b0d0e965e5, hostid is 000000000000
(eds_id10) Invalid hostid on SERVER line
(eds_id10) CANNOT OPEN options file "C:\EDS\I-DEAS10\sec\eds_id10.opt"
(lmgrd) eds_id10 using TCP-port 1328
(eds_id10) No valid hostids, exiting
(lmgrd) Please correct problem and restart daemons.
Thank you much
RE: problem running IDEAS NX 10m3 in windows xp
Do you have an ethernet card on your PC? The license file is generated for ethernet card with system-ID 00b0d0e965e5, while your system ID is 000000000000. Look like you don't have an ethernet card, or with an ethernet card with different system ID.
RE: problem running IDEAS NX 10m3 in windows xp
I do not have an ethernet card.
I have VIA REV2 USB UNIVERSAL HOST CONTROLLER.
Here is my problem, the hostid monster:
1. In FLEXlm License Manager under Diagnostics Tab, Hostid's I have: 000000000002
2. In LMTOOLS under System Settings Tab, Ethernet Address I have: 000000000000
3. In my license file hostid is 00b0d0e965e5
4. This is what i get in my security log file:
Wrong hostid on SERVER line for license file .......
SERVER line says 00b0d0e965e5, hostid is 000000000000
Invalid hostid on SERVER line
As you can see I have three different hostids' instead of one.
My machine at work has the same hostid of 00b0d0e965e5 for items 1, 2, 3 above. That is why it works.
thank you
RE: problem running IDEAS NX 10m3 in windows xp
Usually how Flexlm work is: detect ethernet card hostid -> match with license file -> release license.
I'm not sure whether Ideas license would work without an registered ethernet card. Did the Ideas-support mention on this when they provide the license file?
RE: problem running IDEAS NX 10m3 in windows xp
As far as I'm aware (as of IMS9):
1) License files only work on the machine they are generated on (which also requires a MAC address for them to be tied to). If this changed, you likely need to talk with SDRC/EDS or your Reseller.
2) MAC is short for something, I don't remember, but means the hardware address (different for each NIC), which is also what I-DEAS uses (or at least what the 'FLEXlm license manager' inside I-DEAS) uses for the 'hostid'.
2) NIC is short for 'Network Interface Card', which is what the network cable plugs into, and what the MAC is physically identifying (no two alike, used for security)
3) BTW is 'by the way', and SW refers to SoftWare (above) or possibly SolidWorks, depending on the context.
4) You should find a way to get the install manual for 10, read it, and then try installing on your machine per those instructions (which likely requires you to have a NIC and possibly that it is plugged into at least a hub).
As of IMS9, I am not aware of a way to run the license server on a machine without a NIC. Perhaps they changed things for 10.
Best Regards,
Ed
RE: problem running IDEAS NX 10m3 in windows xp
Other Requirements
ยท Ethernet Adapter (for TCP/IP support)
How do I check to see if I have the ethernet card?
And if I do not have it which brand and part no is good for I-DEAS?
I am going to get an installation guide manual and check it too.
Thank you for your help and directions
RE: problem running IDEAS NX 10m3 in windows xp
When the Take Home License is generated from the Fully licensed server, I believe the application that generates the license needs both the Host Name and HostID of the "Home" PC.
Easisest Solution, fit a network card, get the Host ID, recut the Take Home License for that HostID along with your PC's Host Name.
RE: problem running IDEAS NX 10m3 in windows xp
I am back to square one again. (now what?). I read somewhere that my computer could be reading more than one NIC, MAC, NETWORK CARD,etc, like maybe my computer is reading my modem as an additional interface card. Could this be causing the hostid discrepancy monster?
thank you
RE: problem running IDEAS NX 10m3 in windows xp
How do I find the Take home license (strings)location in the server ? Under which directory ?
Thank you for your help.
RE: problem running IDEAS NX 10m3 in windows xp
The Take Home License Utility is provided in the %SDRC_INSTL%\sec\LicUtil ($SDRC_INSTL/sec/LicUtil - UNIX) folder of your I-DEAS installation. The utility is delivered as two executables (takehomeui.exe, takehometx.exe) and one script (licutil.cmd/.sh) in the LicUtil folder.
RE: problem running IDEAS NX 10m3 in windows xp
RE: problem running IDEAS NX 10m3 in windows xp
So, as indicated in the 2/20 post, you need to have the NIC active (ie, plugged into something, like a router/switch), as otherwise windows doesn't seem to pickup the HostID (ie, the MAC address).
If you plug it in, and the hostid comes out to be the same as the one you already have the license for (and not all zero's), you'd be all set.
If (as sounds more likely) the hostid comes back different (and not all zero's), you can then do as RCDLtd suggested above for the 'take-home' license generation (but I would leave the network plugged in during that process, just in case).
You could try generating the 'take home' license using all zero's, though I'd be surprised if that actually worked, as that would generate a license that is essentially not tied to any one computer...
Hope this helps.
Best Regards,
-Ed
RE: problem running IDEAS NX 10m3 in windows xp
I tried all zeros and as u suggested it might not work, it did not work. Next I am going to try plugging something into
NIC so i get the MAC. But this is just a home pc with no network server. I have 2 questions:
1. What do I plug into NIC? I should buy it whatever it is because I do not have anything like that at home.
2.Does the other end of this device (ie: router/swith which I am not familiar with) have to be connected to a server or another computer to get the MAC?
thank you
RE: problem running IDEAS NX 10m3 in windows xp
You must have a HostID. All 0's mean that you do not have one and this will not work for licensing I-DEAS.
The HostID is present in the Network Adapter whether it is plugged into a network or not.
I'm not sure what kind of Network Adapter you have or whether it is propoerly installed. I would suggest you install a 10/100 Ethernet (RJ45) Network Adapter into your machine and check, through Device manager, that "Device is working propoerly". This should be a fairly inexpensive item, say $10-$20 only.
Whether this is connected to a network/switch/hub or not this should then give your PC a HostID.
Once you have been able to get a HostID on your PC then move on to the next stage of cutting the Take Home License.
Good Luck.
RE: problem running IDEAS NX 10m3 in windows xp
I want to generate a takehome license for another hostid (another pc)from my pc, which my pc is a server right now, and the sdrc is running fine. I have checked my system A200 has been installed, and setup_varbs.cmd is pointing at %SDRC_INSTL%/sec for security, but when I execute the takehomeui.exe, it give me an error:
Unable to obtain server information from security database.
Is that mean that my secDB.dat is corrupt ?
How to solve this problem ?
Anyone can help Please.
RE: problem running IDEAS NX 10m3 in windows xp
The latter won't permit you to cut a takehome license.
It's unlikely that secDB.dat is corrupt if I-DEAS is running correctly.
RE: problem running IDEAS NX 10m3 in windows xp
ive just installed IDEAS 8 on my personal pc. i have win XP pro on my machine
when i want to launch the program i got an error indicating team lock server type is configured in appropriatly or it is not exist at all.
where can i set the type of lock server?
RE: problem running IDEAS NX 10m3 in windows xp
What is the expiration date for a take home license? Is it perpetual or 12 month?
When I entered the take home license password somewhere it gave me a date for expiration of password for 03/05 . Is this true? Do I need to get another take home password in 12 month even if I do not go to new release in over a year. The original IDEAS maintenance we pay it once a year but the original license is for ever even if we do not get the hot line and maintenance?
thank you
RE: problem running IDEAS NX 10m3 in windows xp
http://www.macrovision.com/services/support/flexlm/problem_resolution.shtml#win2khostid