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bobziva (Electrical)
18 Dec 03 15:24
Analyzer Building, project what I started a some time ago, provides better ventilation system and reduction of classified area from Division 2 Group B to Division 2 Group D. Building is very old with some existing equipment as "general purpose equipment" ( lighting, fans) i.e. with unclassified equipment inside hazardous classified zone.
I have to STAMP this project as P.Eng. but I am refusing.
Please your comments
resqcapt19 (Electrical)
22 Dec 03 13:18
How does ventilation change the group of the product involved?  The group is based on the physical properties of the product.  In general the code permits non-arc producing equipment that has a normal operating temperature of 80% or less than the ignition temperature of the product involved to be in NEMA 1 enclosures in Class 1 Division 2 areas.
Don
moeszu (Electrical)
24 Dec 03 10:30
I agree with the previous post.  The classification change when we ventilate according to NFPA 820 would change area rating from Class 1, Div 1 to Class 1, Div 2 or Class1/Div2 to unclassified (the ventilation rates and monitoring requirements vary with type of space).  Many instruments and analysers are available from various suppliers as rated for installation in classified space (no ventilation required) but this also varies with manufacturer.  Information on type/rate of ventilation and monitoring (NFPA requires status to be monitored to make sure that ventilation is in operation to meet ratings) is required to better understand your situation.

Moeszu.
anaylzerdave (Petroleum)
19 Apr 05 7:47
I know, many analyzer building bring in hydrogen for gas chromatographs and the building has lights and heaters not rated for group B. I would have thought forced ventilation, hydrocarbon (calibrated for hydrogen) detector and excess flow check valve on hydrogen line woulkd suffice. Many analyzer buildings have analyzer enclosures with bolts missing. I would think a proactive approch is the best solutio
peebee (Electrical)
2 May 05 13:53
Maybe you're just ventillating the hydrogen, and that's how you're going from D2B to D2D?

Anyway, I think that's besides the point.  You can't put GP lighting fixtures in there, they're not T-rated, there's no guarantee that their surface temperature will not exceed the ignition temperature.  That's a no-no in Div 2.

GP fans may be OK -- BUT -- you need to make sure that there are no arcing devices inside the fans.  If you have integral overloads in the motors, you'll need to pull them, relocate them to a GP area, and replace them with solid jumpers.

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