Radio comms in a large water pipe
Radio comms in a large water pipe
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I have need to provide a communication system for a company building water pipe lines. The pipes are typically 1.2 meters in diameter, and follow the terrain of the land. There are men working inside the pipe (up to 2km up the pipe) who need radio comms to the end. Any suggestions would help. I thought maybe using the pipe as a wave guide for 150 Mhz, but have no idea if this would work.





RE: Radio comms in a large water pipe
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RE: Radio comms in a large water pipe
RE: Radio comms in a large water pipe
The dominant mode of propagation in a circular waveguide is TE11... The guide will exhibit a cutoff wavelength equal to its diameter times 1.706 (~ square root of 3).
Lambda cutoff ~ 1.706 * diameter = 1.706 * 1.2 = 2.05m
Lambda of 150MHz is 2m (seems like you knew all that!).
It is pretty close to cutoff. There might be sufficient variation (bends for example) to put it below the limit. If it doesn't work, then move up to UHF.
RE: Radio comms in a large water pipe
Perhaps the most reliable route is to run a length of leaky coax from a base station throughout the length of the pipe and transmit to and receive from this cable using low cost short range transmitters.
If you want more details, let me know. ian.proffitt@baesystems.com
RE: Radio comms in a large water pipe