Referenced part
Referenced part
(OP)
Help. I have a dwg that has referenced a part. The assy on the dwg does not use or reference the part. Every time I open the dwg it says it can not find the part and asks me if I want to find it. I click on no and save it, but does it again when opening. The assy does not do this. I tried support, but they don't know. Has anyone had this problem before? How can I fix this?
thank you
thank you






RE: Referenced part
I think even if you say NO, it will ask again because it doesn't just delete it, it just doesn't load it.
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Mr. Pickles
RE: Referenced part
I suggest browsing for the part (instead of clicking "no") the next time you open the drawing. Once the drawing is up then you're going to want to aggressively browse through the feature manager tree in the drawing file to figure out where the part is referenced.
Other things I would ask myself:
Are there multiple configurations in the assembly model? (If so perhaps that is an avenue to investigate.)
Do any of the components in the assembly have a Base Part associated with them?
Are there any sub-assemblies among whose children the offending file resides? If not then ask the first two questions about any and all sub-assemblies?
Realistically, the drawing isn't going to prompt you for a missing file if there isn't a legitimate reference or a bug that's been heretofore unheard of (which begs the question what version of SW are you using currently - if it's 2004 then maybe it is a bug). There's little doubt though that a legitimate reason exists for you to be prompted as you've described.
Good Luck,
Chris Gervais
Sr. Mechanical Designer
Lytron Corp.
RE: Referenced part
Any suggestions how to fix the problem? The dwg is too complicated to re-draw.
RE: Referenced part
RE: Referenced part
See if you have a suppressed part in one of the drawing views with a bad (deleted or changed) configuration name.
Remember...
"If you don't use your head,
your going to have to use your feet."
RE: Referenced part
Did the file you deleted have any kind of in-context relations within it (i.e. sketch geometry created within the assembly environment)? If it is a derived part or a base part related to something in your assembly that would cause what you're seeing to happen. Based on your latest post I suspect that is the case.
I suggest restoring the model you deleted if possible and interogating it extensively along with the model in your assembly. Look at every sketch relation individually and check entity ID's and stuff like that. Start with External references as that is where you're most likely to find the problem.
FYI when you run into these kinds of issues I can't stress enough that is NEVER A GOOD IDEA to delete files. That actually can make the problem worse and potentially unrecoverable (I have seen it happen).
Good Luck,
Chris Gervais
Sr. Mechanical Designer
Lytron Corp.
P.S. I'd be happy to look at the specific models and give you a hand if that's reasonable for you to do.
RE: Referenced part
RE: Referenced part
Chris, The part was created in an assy, then saved as a copy, assy references were broken (and a new part was created). The part in the assy was replaced with the new one.
One more thing, the assy is 97,314kb, the dwg is 32,635kb. I don't know how many parts...maybe approx 100. Should these files be so big? Is this common? I once saw a maco somewhere that will compress SW files, but don't remember where I saw it.
thanks
RE: Referenced part
Sometimes the best thing to do is simply perform surgery and transplant. Without seeing the file firsthand it's hard for one to say "here's how to fix this" but I'm guessing that your file is corrupted.
Regarding the compression of files, there's a really cool utility called ECOSqueeze (I forget the website) that does a great job crunching files down to a manageable size. It's free and I have used it extensively (along with a few others here on this board) without encountering any trouble.
One additional question regarding the "lost file" if I may, how exactly did you break the assembly references?
Chris Gervais
Sr. Mechanical Designer
Lytron Corp.
RE: Referenced part
RE: Referenced part
thanks again to Chris for suggestions too
ctopher
Sr Mech Designer