foundry slag
foundry slag
(OP)
I have noticed on property which I recently purchased, what looks like different types of foundry slag.....my neighbor has confirmed. Apparently a previous landowner owned a foundry in town. Is there any environmental hazards associated with such materials, I have 3 small children playing in the yard? Should I have an environmental impact study performed on the property? What about resale of the property?





RE: foundry slag
Or you could hire an environmental consultant to do the research for you. It could run you a couple of thousand $.
Foundry slag can have metals. Did the foundry give "waste" slag or dust to property owners? It could be widespread thruout your area. I would get professional help on deciding if the slag is potentially harmful to your kids.
RE: foundry slag
I would recommend contacting and experienced evironmental consultant as to the appropriate steps. It's too bad you didn't have a Phase I environmental site assesment done before purchase, it potentially would have saved you a lot of headache. Also check real estate laws in your area; in some areas sellers are required by law to disclose known or potential sources of environmental contamination.
Good Luck.
RE: foundry slag
RE: foundry slag
If you want a quick and dirty assessment, have a sample of the slag collected and sent to a certified laboratory for analysis for toxic metals such as cadmium, chromium, nickel, lead, etc. One sample will cost you less than $100. Compare results to the preliminary remediation goals (PRGs)for each metal, estabilshed by the EPA:
http://www.epa.gov/region9/waste/sfund/prg/index.htm
If the SLAG meets PRGs, chances are you don't have a risk problem. I must caution that I don't condone this approach and it is not a good substitute for a professional assesment.
The other potential problem is financial liability for cleanup. I have a current client who used some of what was supposed to be "inert" spend sandblast media to fill low spots, etc. at his house and other properties. He was later reported by a disgruntled employee for improper disposal of haz waste, and a criminal investigation ensued. It turns out the material had heavy metals, and he has now spent lots of $$ of site investigation and cleanup. Even if you don't think it's a problem, someone else might, and as property owner you may be liable. Also, per my previous message regarding real estate law, now that you know the property has slag you may be obligated to tell any future buyers.
RE: foundry slag
Good luck, and proceed intellengently and slowly.
BobPE
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RE: foundry slag
1) If a loan was obtained to purchase the property, the lender should have performed a Phase I as part of 'due diligence.'
2) The type of foundry makes a difference. My guess as to relative hazard ranking, from least to worst bad:
a) Cast iron -- not much, maybe a little Cr.
b) Steel -- Cr, Ni in small amounts
c) Stainless steel - Cr, Ni
d) Aluminum -- Cr(from chromating), Cu, Zn, F-
e) Brass & Bronze -- Cd, Cu, Pb, Zn
RE: foundry slag
RE: foundry slag
I can safely assume that Greenone, 4tuna, BobPE, dicksewerrat and Kenvlach have never faced the pointed end of EPA's CID (Criminal Investigative Division)sword.
If you think for one second that the sand was illegally placed on the property you purchased or that it may be hazardous give them a call. Think about it! Why would someone haul-off foundry sand and place it at a residence? A red flag should go up.
Call EPA CID in your region! At the least they may send someone to grab a sample of the sand and soil and analyze it free of charge.
For a change, put your tax dollars to work - call CID.
RE: foundry slag
foundy slag was unregulated in its day. Don't assume for us, you know what that say about that.....
BobPE
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First, actual data will only cost about $200 for an initial sample and is worth more than expert opinions/conjectures.
Second, in my part of the country, the EPA or local administering agency isn't interested in anything minor, e.g., a $100K cleanup. Prosecutors won't be interested since there was probably no criminal intent (see 'Fourth').
Third, one should first verify the ability of the responsible party to pay for the results of any EPA interest. One case, it cost a client more than $100K to verify to the EPA that there wasn't contamination, and there was no chance of reimbursement from past tenants, anyway.
Fourth, (perhaps a worthless opinion) I doubt the previous owner felt that he was doing anything wrong. He was doing this to his own property, not midnight dumping. Perhaps building up a low spot [let's not even think about wetlands]. He may even have been loosening up some clay soil.
RE: foundry slag
I can solve part of your problem rapidly. Send a sample (about a quart) of your foundry sand to me. I will have it analyzed at no cost to you(heavy metals + TCLP). I will have the analysis emailed or faxed to BobPE, Kenvlach or anyone else for a third party review.
The Laboratory owes me a few favors.
If I'm ever in your part of the country you can buy me a steak dinner.
FEDEX to:
Todd Foret
Oxilume, LLC
104 Thomas Street
Abbeville, LA 70510
phone: (337) 298-8870
www.oxilume.com
RE: foundry slag
Good response. Make that great if you do a background sample, too.
RE: foundry slag
Thanks on the background sample. As soon as the samples are analyzed I will forward results to you.
RE: foundry slag
All the above advice is very good concerning metals contamination.
Also may need to be aware that slag matterials give off toxic gases like ammonia, phenol, and formaldehyde when wet and the reactive material can be sealed inside the center of the slag heap.
Just be careful about any areas you expose to wetting.
RE: foundry slag
1. Where is this site located? Just the general local, not an exact address. Dante has not even said it is in the US.
2. The particulars of what business the foundry is in (or was in?). This information is readily available. Check the library if in the firm is no longer in business.
3. "what looks like different types of foundry slag". Surely there is a better description of this material than that.
4. There is no regulatory definition of "slag".
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My other suggestion would be to contact a civil engineering company in you area. Many of them perform, as a routine part of their work (some as their exclusive work), soil analysis for new site development. This entails knowing how to take samples and where. This and knowing the legal ramifications are their business.
If there are hazardous metals or organics (it depends what sort of foundary is was and whether they handled much organic waste), then aside from direct ingestion, the main concern would be penetration of the material into groundwater.
RE: foundry slag
Most smaller foundries cast either aluminum, brass, or both. Protective flux is used in melting these and the flux is a low melting point mixture of salts.
For aluminum, this is usually sodium chloride, potassium chloride, plus a fluoride and perhaps an unknown or two. These salts leach easily.
jerry grott