PE in metallurgy thread (anybody else taking the test in October)
PE in metallurgy thread (anybody else taking the test in October)
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Hi all,
I plan on signing up for the PE in metallurgy. The test is in October for my state (Ohio). I will be creating a condensed formula and topics sheet to take along with my books.
The deadline for registration is coming up. It is typically 3 months before the test date. I plan on getting my info sent in by the end of the week or early next week.
If anybody else is taking it, perhaps we should confer on the studying process. It appears the pass rate currently is around 50% so I don't expect this to be a cakewalk by any means.
I plan on signing up for the PE in metallurgy. The test is in October for my state (Ohio). I will be creating a condensed formula and topics sheet to take along with my books.
The deadline for registration is coming up. It is typically 3 months before the test date. I plan on getting my info sent in by the end of the week or early next week.
If anybody else is taking it, perhaps we should confer on the studying process. It appears the pass rate currently is around 50% so I don't expect this to be a cakewalk by any means.





RE: PE in metallurgy thread (anybody else taking the test in October)
It wasn't a cakewalk 5 years ago...and that was when the test was half "show your work". I understand it is all multiple choice now?!? Arg! I'd rather show my work and get partial credits!
Hopefully you have picked up some good references for review and study. There aren't many out there for metallurgists though, unfortunately.
Anyway...study...study...and relax (the key on test day is not to panic)...PASS the #$!@ thing!
Good Luck!!
~NiM
RE: PE in metallurgy thread (anybody else taking the test in October)
Good Luck!!
Frank Moore, P.E.
Consulting Metallurgical Engineer
Kansas City Power and Light Co.
RE: PE in metallurgy thread (anybody else taking the test in October)
http://www.tms.org/Education/education.html
"Professional Registration: As a professional society for metallurgical and materials engineers, TMS actively encourages professional registration. Hence, the society takes a lead role in developing the test employed by the National Council of Examiners for Engineering and Surveying to register professional metallurgical engineers in the United States. To facilitate the taking of this exam, TMS provides a free study guide to use in preparing for the Principles and Practice of Engineering Examination."
Good luck,
Ken
RE: PE in metallurgy thread (anybody else taking the test in October)
You and I wrote about the PE exam. I took the last one in Mechanical last April.
The comments from here were very helpful - especially the one that said. "No matter how smart you are - if you don't study you will fail."
I studied like a fanatic - and today, I hung my PE certificate on the wall. I pass by a slim margin, but the headache before, during, and after is now gone.
Good Luck. I am slightly interested in doing the Metuallurgy. But I am going to wait and catch my breath.
Let us know how you do.
jackboot
RE: PE in metallurgy thread (anybody else taking the test in October)
I have been remiss in never owning the Metals Handbook Desk Edition as every place I work had one! The reason I must study now is because in the fall I will be back to graduate classes. I have an excellent 3 month window to study now (although there are so many other things I'd like to read as well!)
I don't own the heat treat books eithers. I could be looking at considerable expense to buy a few of those. Fortunately most of the other recommended references were my college texts, or are easily available from the university.
RE: PE in metallurgy thread (anybody else taking the test in October)
I haven't been studying as much as I would have liked. I now have a month and half before the exam! (Not to mention work and graduate classes which will start in 3 weeks in a slightly different field)
Any advice on what to focus on? I am going to make a formula sheet based on the TMS practice site.
I wish there was a comprehensive listing of important formulas used in metallurgy. Looks like I'll be creating one!
RE: PE in metallurgy thread (anybody else taking the test in October)
I don't recommend creating a formula sheet. Make sure you print the TMS study guide, take some simple math/stats/conversion formulas (sine, Cpk, pounds/newtons), and know the ASM Metals Handbook Desk edition. TMS creates the test questions, their study guide has similar questions to those on the actual tests, and many questions can be answered using this one book.
Regards,
Cory
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RE: PE in metallurgy thread (anybody else taking the test in October)
I'd also like to know which references you find most useful during the exam.
RE: PE in metallurgy thread (anybody else taking the test in October)
Do you know that the protocol is for books CoreyPad? I want to have everything I need but don't want it to be too ridiculous!
RE: PE in metallurgy thread (anybody else taking the test in October)
The sample test available at the TMS website is a perfect guide for the content and style of questions that will be on the PE test.
EngineerDave,
Take whatever device will carry the references you want. Many people had rolling suitcases, many had backpacks. No matter how many books you take, you won't look ridiculous - there will be people who take more than you ever would think to take. In addition to the MH Desk Edition, I would take books that deal with deformation/mechanical properties, fracture mechanics, and physical metallurgy. My test had lots of questions regarding stainless steels and high performance alloys, so ASM Handbook Volume 1 or similar would be useful.
Regards,
Cory
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RE: PE in metallurgy thread (anybody else taking the test in October)
I have personal copies of Metal Handbook vol1 and also Stainless steels. If you need someone to compile some formulae and text material I can do it for you,as I have some free time and it will be enjoyable. I can mail the text material too. Please let me know how we can go about. I also have books on Physical Metallurgy, Mechanical Metallurgy and ofcourse Steel castings handbook. I have been promising to buy the Heat Treatment volume too shortly.
RE: PE in metallurgy thread (anybody else taking the test in October)
I own a few of the textbooks from undergrad, but the rest I need to borrow from work. Finding time to study has been tough, I'm typically pretty tired after work. The only thing that wakes me up is a workout!
RE: PE in metallurgy thread (anybody else taking the test in October)
RE: PE in metallurgy thread (anybody else taking the test in October)
I take it this Friday.
RE: PE in metallurgy thread (anybody else taking the test in October)
Just remember to take "practical" books-you won't have time to be looking up any theory stuff. You also only have to answer some of the problems-you're free to pick and choose which ones-at least way back when I took it.
RE: PE in metallurgy thread (anybody else taking the test in October)
Supposedly for Metallurgy you have to answer all 80 multiple choice now. You can't pick or choose.
RE: PE in metallurgy thread (anybody else taking the test in October)
A lot of the study guide theory questions are right out of the ASM Metals Handbook, Avner's Physical Metallurgy book and Dieters' Mechanical Metallurgy book. I've spent a lot of time with those. I only have Gaskell's Thermo book (he taught it to me at Purdue) so that's why I may be having issues, that book is a bit, well difficult (the class was even harder)...would tracking down Thermodynamic Loop Applications in Material Systems be worth while in this last week? Those are the only questions that worry me.
Alex
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RE: PE in metallurgy thread (anybody else taking the test in October)
FYI there are often questions regarding railroad rails/wheels.
Good luck!
stanweld P.E.
RE: PE in metallurgy thread (anybody else taking the test in October)
Some of those formulas were difficult to find.
RE: PE in metallurgy thread (anybody else taking the test in October)
Relax, take some snacks and drinks with you.
I finished early, about 2 hour, but had to sit there until the exam was over, you couldn't leave because it would disturb the others, so take a light novel to read.
The PPE in welding engineering is 17 question in the morning and 14 in the afternoon. Format?
RE: PE in metallurgy thread (anybody else taking the test in October)
Is it true that you can only have 2 references on the table at a given time? Also can you wheel your rolling suitcase right into the room? Just some minor issues that I wondered about.
I guess you actually can bring snacks and drinks in as well. May as well bring a lunch! Powerbars aren't the best but will have to do!
RE: PE in metallurgy thread (anybody else taking the test in October)
I don't recall having a limit to the number of references on the table at a given time - if there was, that didn't cause me any problems. Yes, you can roll your suitcase right into the room and right next to your chair. I don't remember snacks being allowed during the exam - if they are for you, that is a good thing.
Regards,
Cory
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RE: PE in metallurgy thread (anybody else taking the test in October)
Does anyone know what is required for a passing score. Also I have no idea when scores will be reported.
RE: PE in metallurgy thread (anybody else taking the test in October)
http://www.ncees.org/exams/scoring/passing_score.php#pa...
Regards,
Cory
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RE: PE in metallurgy thread (anybody else taking the test in October)
RE: PE in metallurgy thread (anybody else taking the test in October)
Maybe they will change the criteria for passing.
RE: PE in metallurgy thread (anybody else taking the test in October)
1. Was there a particular thermo or heat transfer book that you or anyone thought was worthwhile?
2. Other than the handbook desk edition, what was the most valuable reference you had. I was expecting it to be the heat treaters guides based on what everyone else had told me, but I, at least, did not find this to be the case.
3. I like to think that my job is the best preparation anyone could have for the PE exam. I am around licensed metallurgists everyday that practice in most every aspect of the field that one can from a private practice standpoint. What I and they do did not seem to be reflected by the content of the exam.
4. How many people at you location took the met exam. My estimate of the number of takers nationwide based on the elses website is ~70. this may be skewed because key states such as ohio and illinois were not listed in their data.
I will post other things as I think of them.
I would like to say that I did not find this thread until after I took the exam, and was happy to find that what others told me about how to prepare for the exam was exactly what I found here. Sadly, I do not think that this commentary was an accurate preparation for the actual exam this year.
RE: PE in metallurgy thread (anybody else taking the test in October)
RE: PE in metallurgy thread (anybody else taking the test in October)
That said, I could have used a better thermo book....I had Gaskell's Transport Phenomena and his Met. Thermo book. The first was ok, but the second was useless. Thermo was my worst subject in school and I was bummed that it was all over the exam. I was hoping for more heat treating and common metallurgical practices questions.
Besides the Handbook, Dieter's book was decent to have though, a quick reference for a lot of topics.
There were 4 people in Western Washington, two were taking it for the second time. Didnt talk to the other guy.
I am excited I passed...unfortuantely, I am now a licensed PE in Metallurgy in Washington working for a glass company in Michigan doing very little related to metals. I can get licensed in MI for $75 and likely will...as far as getting back to metallurgy some day, that's probably likely too down the line.
RE: PE in metallurgy thread (anybody else taking the test in October)
I won't give any info about the test. I think it is an experience everyone should enjoy for themselves!
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RE: PE in metallurgy thread (anybody else taking the test in October)
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RE: PE in metallurgy thread (anybody else taking the test in October)
I plan on signing up for the PE in metallurgy for October-2005. I am based in Chicago.
Is anybody else from chicago appearing for the exam and interested in studying together or sharing the information ? I will be creating a condensed formula and topics sheet to take along with my books.
It appears the pass rate currently is around 50% so I don't expect this to be a cakewalk by any means.
Is morning questions covers all the topics or is that just General Metallurgy and economics questions ?
Thanks in Advance,
Best Regards
RE: PE in metallurgy thread (anybody else taking the test in October)
Here are some useful threads on this subject;
thread330-105087
thread330-115368
thread330-48843
Good Luck
RE: PE in metallurgy thread (anybody else taking the test in October)
There used to be a pdf of sample test questions. Then TMS wanted to start charging for it.
If I can find it you are welcome to have a copy. The only reason it might not be easily accessible is that I took the test in October 2003, and the file was likely on a laptop that was stolen in Sept 2004.
However if it's on my backup I will let you know.
EngineerDave
RE: PE in metallurgy thread (anybody else taking the test in October)
I read Metals Handbook cover to cover and got all my classbooks ready.
RE: PE in metallurgy thread (anybody else taking the test in October)
Thanks for your feedback. I already got the TMS study guide and i will start my studies soon.
What is the diffrence between the morning and afternoon questions ?
Is there anyone else appearing for Met exam in October'05?
A handy notebook with all formulas and equations useful at the exam or i should be having all the books with me at exam ?
Thanks a lot,
RE: PE in metallurgy thread (anybody else taking the test in October)
There us no difference between the AM and PM questions in terms of format or complexity. The exam format remains the same in the Am and PM sessions, each subject area is covered with a different set of questions.
These are all multiple choice questions with only one correct answer. The exam is difficult and requires preparation, mainly to re-acquaint yourself to problem-solving skills, and to work with unit conversions.
My suggestion is to work as many sample problems from suggested reference books listed on the TMS web site as you can manage.
RE: PE in metallurgy thread (anybody else taking the test in October)
I borrowed the heat treat books from work that day.
It was a bit frantic in a way, I felt like I spent alot of time searching through books.
But I passed.
Now I face a similar close book test in my new field which is kind of related to engineering and healthcare.
I am studying for that now and it's in the end of August.
Kind of reminds me of my PE studying.
RE: PE in metallurgy thread (anybody else taking the test in October)
What kind of engineering and Healthcare exam you are talking about ?
What is the qualifications requirements for the exam?
How is the career prospects in biomaterials and bioengineering for material scientist / metallurgist ?
I had work extensively on some orthopedic implants.
Regards,
RE: PE in metallurgy thread (anybody else taking the test in October)
I can discuss a bit with you. Please tell me a bit about your background. I'm kind of interested where you worked at in orthopaedics because I worked at a company in Warsaw Indiana in that field.
Are you taking the PE this year?