CELERON 1.7GHZ VERSES PENTIUM4 1.7GHZ
CELERON 1.7GHZ VERSES PENTIUM4 1.7GHZ
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friends,
I want to buy a new PC. Will you please tell me that what are deficenices of CELERON verses INTEL P4 of same speed. My applications are simple as net surfing, MS OFFICE and CAD works.
I want to buy a new PC. Will you please tell me that what are deficenices of CELERON verses INTEL P4 of same speed. My applications are simple as net surfing, MS OFFICE and CAD works.





RE: CELERON 1.7GHZ VERSES PENTIUM4 1.7GHZ
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RE: CELERON 1.7GHZ VERSES PENTIUM4 1.7GHZ
But, I do agree with you that the Celeron is a cost reduced processor.
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Agreed, the core processor in each generation of Celeron corresponds to the Pentium of that generation.
The Celeron still has essentially a hobbled I/O channel to get the cost down, so performance-wise, particularly for I/O intensive processing, the Pentium will out perform the Celeron. Conversely, if you looking strictly at a tight loop process with little or no I/O, there would be very little difference, although there still might be some differences in the cache implementation.
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Given that, however, the Celeron and P4 are quite different from a hardware perspective. Aside from the multiplexed busses, the Celeron has only a 128K on-die L2 cache, while the P4 has a 512K on-die L2. There may also be subtle differences in the implementation of the pipelining, although most of that is transparent to the average user.
This makes sense for the most part, since almost all Windows software will run on any processor, regardless of generation.
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RE: CELERON 1.7GHZ VERSES PENTIUM4 1.7GHZ
Additionally, it's unlikely that Microsoft has had to worry about throughput, since that's just a clarion call for a bigger processor with another copy of Windows installed. Compiler switches are notorious for not being set the way you intend; yet I've seen little evidence that there have been significant bugs caused by improper targeting of instruction sets between Celeron and Pentium.
Based on the the Intel documentation, they make zero distinction between Celeron and Pentium software architecture; there is only one IA-32 software and P-6 hardware architecture manual, and zero mention of Celeron as a special case.
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Also, I thought that the pleasant side effect was that Intel looks like they took the technophobics into consideration by developing a low cost, bare bones processor for the letter writer / email checker end users.
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The Pentium, like the 486, came out first, followed by the Celeron and the 486-S, respectively. Both were intended for the lower performance requirements, that were driven by cost sensitivity. The cost and reduced performance were achieved in one fell swoop by multiplexing the data and address busses so that external accesses took twice as long, but in only half the hardware. Likewise the reduction in L2 cache to reduce die size reduces the manufacturing cost.
BUT, the instruction set is the same, otherwise, Mathcad and other high performance applications would crash and burn on a Celeron, but they don't, at least, not for an instruction set difference.
Changing the instruction set actually increases manufacturing AND support costs, since you now need different test programs for each chip, different compilers, etc. Additionally, the microcode is actually one of the smallest areas of the chip and reducing the instruction set does not really save that much die area.
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If you have the choice go with an Athlon XP :)
Good Luck
RE: CELERON 1.7GHZ VERSES PENTIUM4 1.7GHZ
i think celeron tell to the intel`s procecor with 128k
cash memory (or less).P4 1.7GH celeron mean CPU P4(400 bus)
with 1.7GH speed & 128k cash memory.the half CPU mean 256k
cash & the full CPU mean 512k cash memory.however if u need
the best system speed u must take CPU P4 with 512k cash(FULL CASH))& DDR RAM(266 BUS)or RD RAM(800 BUS).for example the MDT6 program is running and operating better with 512k cash of CPU.
best regard.
RE: CELERON 1.7GHZ VERSES PENTIUM4 1.7GHZ
Based upon your description of the work the computer will be used for.....I would recommend the you simply get a Celeron processor with as much RAM as you can afford. Ya, your L2 cache is bigger in a P-4, and there is a slight speed difference running CAD. But, the driving factor on CAD is RAM. You will need as much RAM as possible. Therefore, from an economics point of view, it is more feasible to get as much RAM as possible, then buy the fastest Celeron you can afford with what is left (assuming greater than 2.0Ghz). By starting with the most RAM you achieving the best performance for you money. Then choose the processor. The internet and MS Office use does not factor into the equation at all.
The above arguements and opinions are valid, however, I have found that the money difference between P-4 and Celeron was not justified for CAD use and have since stuck with Celeron and large amounts of RAM.
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I have never fully resolved the processor issue in my mind either. Everything I've bought for home use has been Pentium, I have never had a Athlon or Celeron. But for business use recently, to save cost we went with a unit with an Athlon processor (don't have the specs of it in front of me right now though)
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If you go through the postings above, you'll see that while a Celeron and Pentium could have the same clock speed, they don't process data at the same performance, due to limitations of the I/O and cache memory.
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