Hythane or Hydrogen Conversion
Hythane or Hydrogen Conversion
(OP)
I'm looking for information on converting a CNG vehicle to run on either Hythane or hydrogen (internal combustion).
Questions:
1. What's involved in converting a CNG vehicle to run on Hythane and/or hydrogen? Can the fuels be used interchangeably?
2. What's the typical power and range reduction when converting from CNG to Hythane or hydrogen?
3. Can Hythane be dispensed from a standard CNG refueling station (assuming H2 available) or is custom equipment required?
Any contacts for Hythane and/or hydrogen conversions would be helpful too!
Questions:
1. What's involved in converting a CNG vehicle to run on Hythane and/or hydrogen? Can the fuels be used interchangeably?
2. What's the typical power and range reduction when converting from CNG to Hythane or hydrogen?
3. Can Hythane be dispensed from a standard CNG refueling station (assuming H2 available) or is custom equipment required?
Any contacts for Hythane and/or hydrogen conversions would be helpful too!





RE: Hythane or Hydrogen Conversion
What in the world is Hythane?
RE: Hythane or Hydrogen Conversion
RE: Hythane or Hydrogen Conversion
There is a transit company near Palm Springs that is using Hythane in its CNG based buses with good results, from what they publish. Hythane can be stored in a CNG station, but H2 and CH4 have different characteristics when compressed, and since they are different specific gravities, they can settle over time if not moved around. Since H2 has a wide range of flammability, it can work with almost any CNG system, the problem is locating it.
H2 has its place in modern transportation, but in my opinion, we need to find a replacement for the IC engine first, its not the most efficient means of power, just the most popular.
Franz
RE: Hythane or Hydrogen Conversion
RE: Hythane or Hydrogen Conversion
Try searching through:
http://www.sunline.org/
They are located in Thousand Palms, about 15 miles from Palm Springs.
Franz
RE: Hythane or Hydrogen Conversion
http://www.nrgtech.com/Michelin.htm
http://avt.inel.gov/hydrogen/pdf/F150Hipercentreport.pdf
http://avt.inel.gov/hydrogen/pdf/F150Lowpercentreport.pdf
Also referance Sae paper 960858 and 961103.
RE: Hythane or Hydrogen Conversion
they meantioned the factory standard HP and curb weight, but not after modifactions!! what HP after mod's did they acheive?? how far did they lean out the operation of the engines to acheive near no NOx for the 50/50 blend. DI port admission???
Generally speaking this would de-rate the BHP of engine, making a NOx per HP emission test much more sensible especially when dealing with a 3 ton beast of a truck. But they did use a supercharger so maybe there wasn't any significant reduction!!
That is the question!!
RE: Hythane or Hydrogen Conversion
Doesn't leaning out the fuel cause a lower power density?
And a lower power density means less hp when you need it -- like accelerating or going up a hill?
RE: Hythane or Hydrogen Conversion