Reinforced Concrete Retaining Wall - Specifications for expansion joints?
Reinforced Concrete Retaining Wall - Specifications for expansion joints?
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Hello everyone, i am designing a reinforced concrete retaining wall (please see details on the drawings below)
and i would like to know what type of expansion joints do i need to use on the stem and at what spacing?
1) My main question now is, is it necessary to divide the wall into different sections along its
length by stopping the distribution bars and installing an OSB board together with an insulation board?
(see picture below: picture doesnt show the OSB and insulation board but shows that the distribution bars are discontinued)

2) or is it ok to just create a v-groove shape along the full height of the stem wall, by fixing one long plastic piece inside the formwork?
in addition you could also cut every other distribution bar at this location to weaken the stem at this location and promote the cracking there
3) and the last option is to cast the wall normally and then sawcut along the full height of the stem, in addition you could also cut
every other distribution bar at this location to weaken the stem at this location and promote the cracking there
which one is the best approach and is it possible to avoid dividing the wall into sections?
PLAN VIEW OF RETAINING WALL:
RETAINING WALL IS ILLUSTRATED WITH CYAN COLOUR
1st wall TA1 has a length of 30m
2nd wall TA2 has a length of 18m
3rd wall TA3 has a length of 23m

SECTION THROUGH WALL A-A

and i would like to know what type of expansion joints do i need to use on the stem and at what spacing?
1) My main question now is, is it necessary to divide the wall into different sections along its
length by stopping the distribution bars and installing an OSB board together with an insulation board?
(see picture below: picture doesnt show the OSB and insulation board but shows that the distribution bars are discontinued)

2) or is it ok to just create a v-groove shape along the full height of the stem wall, by fixing one long plastic piece inside the formwork?
in addition you could also cut every other distribution bar at this location to weaken the stem at this location and promote the cracking there
3) and the last option is to cast the wall normally and then sawcut along the full height of the stem, in addition you could also cut
every other distribution bar at this location to weaken the stem at this location and promote the cracking there
which one is the best approach and is it possible to avoid dividing the wall into sections?
PLAN VIEW OF RETAINING WALL:
RETAINING WALL IS ILLUSTRATED WITH CYAN COLOUR
1st wall TA1 has a length of 30m
2nd wall TA2 has a length of 18m
3rd wall TA3 has a length of 23m

SECTION THROUGH WALL A-A







RE: Reinforced Concrete Retaining Wall - Specifications for expansion joints?
RE: Reinforced Concrete Retaining Wall - Specifications for expansion joints?
Thanks for you reply, can you please elaborate on which type of control joint do you use?
1) sawcut or 2) v-groove?
RE: Reinforced Concrete Retaining Wall - Specifications for expansion joints?
RE: Reinforced Concrete Retaining Wall - Specifications for expansion joints?
Your dowel on the tension side can go to mid height of the wall to reduce your wall reinforcing and the footing extension can be shorter because it is in compression.
You also have to specify concrete cover to reinforcing.
Dik
RE: Reinforced Concrete Retaining Wall - Specifications for expansion joints?
On your wall I recommend expansion joints at Points 8 and 9, in addition to where ever else needed. At 8 you may want to think about an EJ each side of the intersection. I've inspected many walls and saw one with a corner similar to 8 that spilt the entire stem of the wall.
RE: Reinforced Concrete Retaining Wall - Specifications for expansion joints?
good advice however that is not my drawing, i just wanted to illustrate what i was talking about,
I have not yet decided if I am going to use an expansion/isolation joint
RE: Reinforced Concrete Retaining Wall - Specifications for expansion joints?
in order to better understand what you want me to do at corner 9 please answer the following question
shall i use this type of reinforcement at corner 9?
RE: Reinforced Concrete Retaining Wall - Specifications for expansion joints?
Do i need any expansion joints or contraction joints in the footing?
RE: Reinforced Concrete Retaining Wall - Specifications for expansion joints?
Do you have an actual product name for the waterstops you use?
Dik
RE: Reinforced Concrete Retaining Wall - Specifications for expansion joints?
You don't want a joint at the corner, but, a couple of feet on either side of the corner.
Dik
RE: Reinforced Concrete Retaining Wall - Specifications for expansion joints?
Because the footing is exposed, you need to put a control joint in it to help it to crack at the location of the wall cracks... else, the crack will show up at a random location, possibly near, the wall joints.
I've attached a sketch of a reglet. When you cast concrete against a concrete surface, part of the liquid drips through the joint line, staining the surface of the existing concrete surface. A reglet helps avoid this, and gives a neater finish if exposed. You will have to revisit your vertical wall reinforcing.
You can caulk the reglet after all is cast and hardened...
Dik
RE: Reinforced Concrete Retaining Wall - Specifications for expansion joints?
Not the width of the footing, the length of the compression bar.... you only need a compression development length.
Dik
RE: Reinforced Concrete Retaining Wall - Specifications for expansion joints?
1) Create contraction joints on the footing, located exactly where the contraction joints of the stem are.
The contraction joints on the footing should be vertical or horizontal?
Therefore no expansion joints are required on the footing?
Also there is no need to divide the footing in two or more different sections?
2) Use a reglet at the base of the wall to prevent 'ugly' concrete leaking.
RE: Reinforced Concrete Retaining Wall - Specifications for expansion joints?
RE: Reinforced Concrete Retaining Wall - Specifications for expansion joints?
dik,
This is a link to the NYSDOT approved list of PVC waterstops manufacturers:
Link
I've seen every other horizontal bar cut at the joint and no horizontal bars running through the joint.
yes. Yesterday, when I first read your post, I didn't notice wall lengths; two expansion joints should work
RE: Reinforced Concrete Retaining Wall - Specifications for expansion joints?
1) The expansion joint should also be formed within the footing as well?
do i need to divide the footing in different sections with discontinued reinforcement?
2) the first wall TA1, is 30m long, do you think one expansion joint in the middle is enough?
RE: Reinforced Concrete Retaining Wall - Specifications for expansion joints?
because the footing is exposed, joints should be made at the wall locations, else, you may have 'random' cracking is exposed concrete.
The contraction joints on the footing should be vertical or horizontal?
Joint should be vertical, in the face of the exposed footing.
Therefore no expansion joints are required on the footing?
No... if the cost is insignificant and appearance is necessary, you need joints.
Also there is no need to divide the footing in two or more different sections?
not longitudinally, but transversely.
You also need drainage behind the wall... I posted a reglet detail. This is often used at a horizontal joint to separate two or more concrete pours. When you cast the stem wall on the footing, cement paste will leak out of the joint and form a visually displeasing joint. The reglet helps prevent this. You might consider using a decorative form liner to provide something other than a plain concrete wall.
Dik
RE: Reinforced Concrete Retaining Wall - Specifications for expansion joints?
Dik
RE: Reinforced Concrete Retaining Wall - Specifications for expansion joints?
Also, in a typical footing that’s below grade no joint is needed but if your footing is above grade then extending the joint through footing is not a bad idea.
RE: Reinforced Concrete Retaining Wall - Specifications for expansion joints?