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AS3600 - 2019 2nd Draft For Public Comment

AS3600 - 2019 2nd Draft For Public Comment

AS3600 - 2019 2nd Draft For Public Comment

(OP)
This should be available for download from Australian Standards mid next week. Nominally Tuesday, but who knows!

RE: AS3600 - 2019 2nd Draft For Public Comment

great news. I look forward to it

RE: AS3600 - 2019 2nd Draft For Public Comment

Thanks Doug, The PDF doesn't seem to be free for me. Perhaps because I'm outside of Australia.

RE: AS3600 - 2019 2nd Draft For Public Comment

I'm in the same boat, Cooper.

Oddly enough, other drafts accessed through my first link allow me to download PDF versions for free. I guess we wait until it gets posts through sapc.standards.org.

RE: AS3600 - 2019 2nd Draft For Public Comment

8.2.4.3 is wrong or have I misunderstood? [Edit: Checked against AS 5100.5. The AS 3600 draft is wrong as noted below.]
  • Commas missing before kv in both items (a) & (b)? [Tabs are missing cf AS 5100.5]
  • Upper limit of 1.10 in (a) should be a lower limit of... not sure, maybe 0.15 to match item (b)? [Upper limit should be 0.10 according to AS 5100.5]
[I won't bother reporting this. I like to watch the world burn and surely someone will misinterpret the 1.10 limit as conservative at some stage.]

RE: AS3600 - 2019 2nd Draft For Public Comment

I've just gone straight to the shear sections because I was aware they were a major change, and this is pretty disappointing for a second public draft. It's just typos but so sloppy; might need to make a submission after all (or SAI could proof-read their drafts...)

  • 8.2.4.2.1 items (a) and (b) are both listed as applying to Asv/S < Asv.min/S, whereas (b) should presumably be the greater-than-or-equal-to provision.
  • 8.2.4.2.1(a) items (i) and (ii)are both listed as applying to f'c <= 65 MPa, whereas (ii) should presumably be > 65 MPa.

On a technical note, it appears that the simplified one-way shear rules are very conservative for thin slabs. 0.10*sqrt(f'c) in the draft (once corrected) compared with 0.17*sqrt(f'c) which was previously accepted, eg AS5100.5-2004 and Warner et al 'Concrete Structures' textbook. I might request that the simplified rules include something specifically for slabs - probably just needs the old Beta.1 factor or similar.

RE: AS3600 - 2019 2nd Draft For Public Comment

(OP)
steveh49,

You should try being on the committee! There other recently introduced errors in those areas that you have not picked up as well, and they were correct in the last draft I saw early Feb. Somehow they were changed in the interim by the ghosts!

RE: AS3600 - 2019 2nd Draft For Public Comment

(OP)
steveh49

Also do not assume AS5100 is correct, changes are in the system to get it right as well.

RE: AS3600 - 2019 2nd Draft For Public Comment

None of the above links work for me, also going directly to sai global isn't working. Anyone found a way?

RE: AS3600 - 2019 2nd Draft For Public Comment

The code isn't listed on the Standards Australia list of open drafts. It only lists drafts that can be commented on using that list. As it explains AS3600 must have a different way to submit comments, as described in the document. It looks like you have to get it through the store which isn't free for me.

RE: AS3600 - 2019 2nd Draft For Public Comment

The link to Standards Australia below (and in my post yesterday) is to the comments page for AS 3600:
https://sapc.standards.org.au/sapc/secure/commenti...

It has a button which links to the SAI Global store where the pdf is available for free download (at least in Australia). It also has a paper copy available for sale at $85.

I don't know why it isn't listed on the AS general list of documents open for comment; perhaps because its supposed to be close to the final document to be published in the near future.

Doug Jenkins
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http://newtonexcelbach.wordpress.com/

RE: AS3600 - 2019 2nd Draft For Public Comment

Thanks IDS, but when I get to the SAI page it won't allow me to select anything except the hardcopy for $85. Click on PDF in drop-down menu but only hardcopy remains as option.

Cheers
Toby

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