Lathe center marks Lathe center marks marshell (Mechanical) (OP) 6 Mar 18 14:51 When specifying the center mark left on the ends of a lathe built part, should it be fully defined via GD&T, or can a simple note allowing a max diameter and max depth be specified? Thanks in advance. RE: Lathe center marks greenimi (Mechanical) 6 Mar 18 15:09 My 2 cents: I would say that is a risk management assessment, when the designer will get away with max diameter and max depth or more robust product definition must be used. (profile for the conical surfaces, etc.). When is good enough? The same as: how to define radii? R with ± or with profile. Where you draw the line? Up to the designer to decide; the complexity/criticality of the feature. Function again. RE: Lathe center marks drawoh (Mechanical) 6 Mar 18 15:29 marshell, If the lathe centre mark is not functional to me, but otherwise I don't care, I would specify a maximum geometry for it. Don't require the feature. Allow them to do the feature. -- JHG RE: Lathe center marks mkcski (Mechanical) 6 Mar 18 16:51 Cutting tools used to machine lathe centers are designated as such and have an incldued angle and tip-clearance hole per industry standards for lathe centers - typically 60-deg included angle. So don't bother using GD&T to control the dimensions of the center-hole. Certified Sr. GD&T Professional RE: Lathe center marks FACS (Mechanical) 6 Mar 18 21:32 It's not a functional feature, and has no fit requirements. The position is by default, and is concentric with the part. So specify the maximum depth only, and that should be it. The standard included angle will default the OD by the depth. RE: Lathe center marks CheckerHater (Mechanical) 7 Mar 18 11:14 Agree with mccski: "For every expert there is an equal and opposite expert" Arthur C. Clarke Profiles of the future http://files.engineering.com/getfile.aspx?folder=3baa22e4-d12d-4d89-bc27-52 RE: Lathe center marks mkcski (Mechanical) 7 Mar 18 12:44 Quote (FACS)So specify the maximum depth only, and that should be it. The standard included angle will default the OD by the depth. Considering this comment: you could put a MAX diameter and MAX depth to limit any concerns with structural or other design requirements. Certified Sr. GD&T Professional RE: Lathe center marks FACS (Mechanical) 7 Mar 18 18:52 With a 60 degree included angle, calling out both diameter and depth is considered a redundant dimension. RE: Lathe center marks CWB1 (Mechanical) 8 Mar 18 14:34 Neither is necessary. Call out the location and max center size, not to be confused with center geometry. Also be sure to include a note stating so if centers are optional and not necessary for inspection.