Global Lateral Torsional Buckling of Twin Tapered 3-Plate Girders
Global Lateral Torsional Buckling of Twin Tapered 3-Plate Girders
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I have two simply supported twin girders that are 24" apart. They span 50' and have a start depth of 18", taper to 42" at the midspan, and then back to 18" at the opposite support. They are each carrying a point load at midspan loaded through the centroid of the beam. I am planning to lace the top flanges together with angles to reduce the unbraced length of the compression flange. I am also planning to build cross frames at about 12'-6" on center to brace the bottom flange since the point load can become uplift under wind loading conditions.
Given the depth of the member at midspan, and the fact that the girders are only 2' apart, I am concerned about global lateral buckling of the system. I have read through "Global Lateral Buckling of I-Shaped Girder Systems" by Yura, Helwig, Herman, and Zhou. They have formulas for a doubly symmetric members of uniform depth but nothing about tapered members. Any suggestions on how to approach calculating the Ieff for a tapered section in this situation? Do I even need to worry about it if I am lacing the top flange all the way to the supports? If so, do I need to design for a cumulative bracing effect at each panel point or at least at each cross frame? This could add up to a significant lateral force at my supports.
Given the depth of the member at midspan, and the fact that the girders are only 2' apart, I am concerned about global lateral buckling of the system. I have read through "Global Lateral Buckling of I-Shaped Girder Systems" by Yura, Helwig, Herman, and Zhou. They have formulas for a doubly symmetric members of uniform depth but nothing about tapered members. Any suggestions on how to approach calculating the Ieff for a tapered section in this situation? Do I even need to worry about it if I am lacing the top flange all the way to the supports? If so, do I need to design for a cumulative bracing effect at each panel point or at least at each cross frame? This could add up to a significant lateral force at my supports.






RE: Global Lateral Torsional Buckling of Twin Tapered 3-Plate Girders
http://www.eng-tips.com/viewthread.cfm?qid=302826
DG 25 seems to be the weapon of choice but I've heard some complaints about it elsewhere as well.
The thing to remember when (laterally) bracing any beam is the fact it has to have both strength and stiffness. As far as the latter goes, you have to tie most lateral bracing (for LTB) into the Lateral Force Resisting System. Otherwise you will not have the necessary out of plane stiffness required. (See Appendix 6 of AISC 13th edition.) Hopefully you are running your bracing back to the support. (To form what looks like (in plan view) a horizontal truss.)
RE: Global Lateral Torsional Buckling of Twin Tapered 3-Plate Girders
RE: Global Lateral Torsional Buckling of Twin Tapered 3-Plate Girders
RE: Global Lateral Torsional Buckling of Twin Tapered 3-Plate Girders
RE: Global Lateral Torsional Buckling of Twin Tapered 3-Plate Girders
RE: Global Lateral Torsional Buckling of Twin Tapered 3-Plate Girders
RE: Global Lateral Torsional Buckling of Twin Tapered 3-Plate Girders
RE: Global Lateral Torsional Buckling of Twin Tapered 3-Plate Girders
LTB behavior is driven by the properties of the beam in the middle ~60% of the unbraced length. So much so, that for beams with cover plates, AASHTO allows the end regions to be ignored in certain circumstances (see C6.10.8.2). Even if you can't entirely ignore it, you can usually compensate for it using an analogy to a stepped column. I don't think an FE model is required (yet).
I wouldn't necessarily consider a calculation with average section properties to cover things, but does it work with both the 18" and 42" sections?
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RE: Global Lateral Torsional Buckling of Twin Tapered 3-Plate Girders
RE: Global Lateral Torsional Buckling of Twin Tapered 3-Plate Girders
https://ascelibrary.org/doi/10.1061/%28ASCE%290733...
The blue line is Equation 9 with a normal condition and the orange line is equation 9 with an end-restrained condition. The red line is my required moment at that beam depth with the dashed line representing the maximum required moment. It looks like even with the cross frames I am going to require top flange diagonal bracing on at least part of the span. Due to the unknowns I am leaning towards just doing the entire span.
RE: Global Lateral Torsional Buckling of Twin Tapered 3-Plate Girders
I'd probably take it all the way back -- you might be able to save one or two bays at the ends (resolving the brace forces into axial and weak axis) but for the size of bracing you're talking about, you'll generate more headache and contractor anguish checking that than the extra steel will cost.
(To be honest, we probably already analyzed past the point of ideal economics... but it is just too darn fun!)
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