why is that? (bracing question)
why is that? (bracing question)
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Lets say we are dealing with a steel frame. Columns, beams at the top and X bracing (diagonals).
In FEM software I modeled it like this: all connections between elements are pinned and supports/base of columns are also pinned.
Since we have X bracing I only put tension diagonals in my model which is pretty standard.
Horizontal force (wind, earthquake) is transformed through beams (at the top of column) by compression forces to diagonals and columns and from there to supports.
Lets say that X bracing is in 3 vertical fields between columns. I have always thought that a total horizontal force (in this case 100 kN) on a frame is transfered equally between all 3 X bracings, but based on my FEM analysis results that is not the case. Why is that? Axial tension forces change as soon as I use different cross sections for beams/diagonals... Does that mean that horizontal forces are destributed based on a stiffness of a single braced field? Maybe I get different axial force in each diagonal because columns are not evenly apart?
Comments?
Looks like the first diagonal gets the most tension since compression axial forces in beams are the largest before first X bracing and then is gets smaller after that since part of the load goes through diagonal and column to support. I dont think thats how it is in reality... In a modle we put a total horizontal load at the beginning of a frame, but in a case of earthquake the total load wont realy start there in my opinion but it will be more eveny destributed along the whole frame...? What do you think? should I use 1/3 of total horizontal load and put 100/3 = 33,3 kN load on a single braced field instead of using a whole frame?

In FEM software I modeled it like this: all connections between elements are pinned and supports/base of columns are also pinned.
Since we have X bracing I only put tension diagonals in my model which is pretty standard.
Horizontal force (wind, earthquake) is transformed through beams (at the top of column) by compression forces to diagonals and columns and from there to supports.
Lets say that X bracing is in 3 vertical fields between columns. I have always thought that a total horizontal force (in this case 100 kN) on a frame is transfered equally between all 3 X bracings, but based on my FEM analysis results that is not the case. Why is that? Axial tension forces change as soon as I use different cross sections for beams/diagonals... Does that mean that horizontal forces are destributed based on a stiffness of a single braced field? Maybe I get different axial force in each diagonal because columns are not evenly apart?
Comments?
Looks like the first diagonal gets the most tension since compression axial forces in beams are the largest before first X bracing and then is gets smaller after that since part of the load goes through diagonal and column to support. I dont think thats how it is in reality... In a modle we put a total horizontal load at the beginning of a frame, but in a case of earthquake the total load wont realy start there in my opinion but it will be more eveny destributed along the whole frame...? What do you think? should I use 1/3 of total horizontal load and put 100/3 = 33,3 kN load on a single braced field instead of using a whole frame?







RE: why is that? (bracing question)
this is one reason why the horizontal force is not exactly 1/3 in each bracing
best regards
Klaus
RE: why is that? (bracing question)
If you use all the same section for all of your braces, you should get pretty much an even split - all braces have approximately the same horizontal displacement at the top and they have the same stiffness, therefore equal split. The model may not give you a perfectly even split because the braces will have slightly different horizontal displacements due to the beams compressing slightly...but it should be pretty close to evenly split.
If you have different brace sizes, the lateral displacements will still be pretty much equal...but now most of the applied force is going to the stiffer braces.
RE: why is that? (bracing question)
Well thats what I had in mind...but its also important where you actually put forces in a model...
In a case of wind forces - I think its reasonable to put forces at the start and end of a frame since wind from face facades are transfered to a frame - similar will happen in real world.
But in a case of earthquake I think it should be transfered based on stifness like CANPRO elaborted and not how I modeled it 1st post. Putting a total earthquake force at the beginning of a frame is not what really happens. Results vary greatly. Since I have same sections for all braces/columns/beams and spans between columns are pretty much the same, I think I should devide total earthquake force with number of X bracings to get results that are more realistic.
(90,62 + 50,81)/2 = 70,71 kN (so average force in tension diagonal in model 2 is the same as in model 1)
RE: why is that? (bracing question)
Computer program is just an aid....
You need to know that you expect from a model and according to that you have to define the INPUT so that the OUTPUT is usable
This is true for the model itself as well as for the boundary als loading conditions
best regards
Klaus
RE: why is that? (bracing question)
This would more correctly model how a diaphragm is distributing load anyways.
RE: why is that? (bracing question)
RE: why is that? (bracing question)
Im posting results for all three models for an actual problem. My total earthquake load on a frame is 273,60 kN. Since I have 3 X bracing that is 273,60/3 = 91,20 kN per bracing or in a case of uniform load that is 273,60 kN/45,60 m = 6,00 kN/m (lenght of a frame is 45,60 m).
MODELS:
1. total load as uniform load,
2. total load devided by number of X bracings,
3. total load at the start of the frame,
I think model 3 is the best.
RE: why is that? (bracing question)
RE: why is that? (bracing question)
RE: why is that? (bracing question)
If it were me, and all things being equal, i.e. column spacing, column size, beam size, I would likely design it as option 2 and likely figure out the forces by hand. Are the braces modelled as tension only? are they allowed to be with seismic?
RE: why is that? (bracing question)
RE: why is that? (bracing question)
You have to use your judgment when modeling to best (and most realistically) distribute the applied forces.