Self taught rocket launcher - Failure waiting to happen...
Self taught rocket launcher - Failure waiting to happen...
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https://www.npr.org/sections/thetwo-way/2017/11/26...
The psychology of this is quite fascinating to me.
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The psychology of this is quite fascinating to me.
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Why did you entice me to read that article IRStuff?
Do you have some secret belief that you need to confess?
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from the video it looks like it wouldn't make 18 ft never mind 1,800...
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"the rocket launcher he had built out of a used motor home "broke down in the driveway" on Wednesday"
Why does Larry the Cable Guy suddenly pop into my mind!
It is better to have enough ideas for some of them to be wrong, than to be always right by having no ideas at all.
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Now, of course, this is a "religious" matter. A matter of obsession if you will, so he will be very, very unlikely to be "converted" from his obsession. Also, the standard of disproof is much, much higher than the standard of proof. (It takes much more objective evidence to change a convicted person's mind than it takes to reinforce a conviction already present. Hysterical hysteresis if you will.)
Nevertheless, how far would you have to go to actually see a curved horizon?
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It is better to have enough ideas for some of them to be wrong, than to be always right by having no ideas at all.
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Here is Felix Baumgartner's view: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vvbN-cWe0A0
STF
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Of course, the idea of an amateur playing with that much steam pressure is rather scary.
https://youtu.be/fp2q_dKuc-c
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I just think it's fascinating how badly some people's brains are wired, that they believe something, even when confronted with a myriad of evidence that they're not even remotely close to the correct answer. I guess that applies even to presidents...
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If we want to catalog things as "engineering failures", let's chalk the internet up as a societal engineering failure.
As great of a tool a limitless library with unfettered access to the wealth of information within could be; it is instead being leveraged with great effect to corrupt and misguide people.
You don't have to definitively prove your case to get people to question the validity of a principle (scientific or otherwise). All you have to do is plant a seed of doubt.
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If the rest of the rocket is assembled to the same standards, I'd like to be a long way away from it all.
A.
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"A Darwin award in the making?"
I've always felt that there should be some sort of Darwin "Encouragement Award" or "Lifetime Achievement Award", to be given to people who make persistent and repeated efforts to remove themselves from the gene pool, but have (so far) failed to do so. A Darwin Award can only be granted when the "applicant" is finally successful.
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I think there are enough plausible candidates without encouraging them...
Dik
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Anyway the guy is an absolute loon as are all the flat earthers - How anyone manages to convince themselves of this is the bigger mystery here.
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Mind you the man could be a genius. Think of all the free publicity he is getting. Probably run for president in future.
My grandmother who passed away in the 70's was one of the flat earth club. She had the complete logic.
The earth is flat. Any fool can see that.
Man did not go to the moon. Everyone knows that you cant live in space. Walking on the moon was a lie.
Besides if the earth is flat you cannot orbit it in a space ship so that proves its all a lie.
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Easy... the horizon looks flat...
When we were in grade school one of the things that Columbus proved was that the world was round... they forgot to mention that the Greeks had determined the diameter of it several thousand years earlier...
With apologies to the
LimelightersChad Mitchell Trio, their take on the John Birch Society could be applicable to the Flat Earthers..."...to get this movement started, we need lots of tools and cranks..."Dik
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I hope you're being deliberately ironic because Columbus (and most people of his time) knew the world was round.
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[quote]How do they answer the question that when at sea, where the surface is super flat, you still can't see anything more than 20-30 miles away on the clearest day in history??[/qoute]
I was told that in Saskatchewan, if you look carefully enough into the distance, you can see the back of your head.
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Published on Nov 1, 2015
Mike Hughes flew in his home built rocket at Winkelman, Arizona, in January 2014. It flew a quarter mile! The second rocket he built flew 6/10 of a mile, which is over a half mile and on minimum steam pressure. If it flew at full capacity, it would have flown over a mile! The next flight is targeted to do that.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4jU_forLM_s
This video is Mad Mike Hughes Rockets #1 and #2. The first one flew manned with Mike and the second flew without him. The next flight is scheduled in about a week 3 miles from Amboy, California. This video is copyright (c) 2014-2017 Michael Hawkins. All rights reserved.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-AVX1mjJQu8
This video is about Mad' Mike Hughes Manned Rocket Flight which took place on January 30, 2014. Mike Hawkins placed a GoPro Onboard Camera at the rear of the rocket, propelled by steam. It went a quarter mile. The second rocket Mike Hughes built went over a half mile. The next flight is slated to place in Oregon 2016. Visit MadMikeHughes.com for further details.
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"How do they answer the question that when at sea, where the surface is super flat, you still can't see anything more than 20-30 miles away on the clearest day in history??"
Didn't a certain ex-governor claim that she could see Russia from her living room?
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"The biggest error was that the Greeks grossly underestimated the diameter of the Earth."
Actually, Eratosthenes did a remarkably good job of calculating the circumference of the Earth in the third century BC:
... Taking the Earth as spherical, and knowing both the distance and direction of Syene, he concluded that the Earth's circumference was fifty times that distance.
His knowledge of the size of Egypt was founded on the work of many generations of surveying trips. Pharaonic bookkeepers gave a distance between Syene and Alexandria of 5,000 stadia (a figure that was checked yearly).
...
Some claim Eratosthenes used the Olympic stade of 176.4 m, which would imply a circumference of 44,100 km, an error of 10%,but the 184.8 m Italian stade became (300 years later) the most commonly accepted value for the length of the stade, which implies a circumference of 46,100 km, an error of 15%.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Eratosthenes#Measure...
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...don't need an ocean, on any decent sized lake, e.g. Lake Winnipeg, any of the Great Lakes or any of the larger lakes around the world, the curvature of the horizon is evident, as is the recedence of land or floating bodies near and beyond the horizon.
"Schiefgehen wird, was schiefgehen kann" - das Murphygesetz
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The problem was that in the 1400s, estimates of longitude were not very good, Estimates for the longitude of East Asia had it quite a lot further east than the real figure, Columbus was also using an under-eastimate for the circumference of the Earth - he really did believe he could sail to Japan, but as luck would have it, he found the Caribbean islands just when he expected to reach Asia.
There's a good succinct account here:
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Myth_of_the_flat_Ear...
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So, either the Europeans misinterpreted the Greeks' Earth circumference, or the Greeks made a mistake.
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Columbus mistakenly assumed that the mile referred to in the Arabic estimate of 56â…” miles for the size of a degree was the same as the actually much shorter Italian mile of 1,480 metres (0.92 mi). His estimate for the size of the degree and for the circumference of the Earth was therefore about 25% too small. The combined effect of these mistakes was that Columbus estimated the distance to Japan to be only about 5,000 km (or only to the eastern edge of the Caribbean) while the true figure is about 20,000 km."
Ref: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Myth_of_the_flat_Ear...
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He scored the big contributions when he returned with evidence of finding a new place.
https://www.cluteinstitute.com/ojs/index.php/JABR/... has an accounting view of the voyage but doesn't suggest a converted value.
CONCLUSION
It has been reported that Columbus may have been one of the best dealmakers in history. He really did not know where he was going, and even after four voyages, he never really got there. He convinced others to finance his adventure into the unknown, and when he got there, he did not know where he was. Yet, when he returned to Spain, he was able to obtain monies to finance a second trip with 17 ships and over 1200 people.
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They were attempting to use the same principle as watching a boat's mast disappear: Measure the height of a marker on the boat as it moved away from the observer down the calm water of the canal. Today, with a laser line from a gravity-balanced level and today's telescopes and mounts, could the experiment be tried again successfully?
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So, after launching that rocket it is just common sense to demand that it gets the passenger back on the ground in one piece. Else we're ripe for gladiator games (again). Such handling of reality as one of many alternative facts will harm, hurt or worse, one day or other.
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It is better to have enough ideas for some of them to be wrong, than to be always right by having no ideas at all.
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It is better to have enough ideas for some of them to be wrong, than to be always right by having no ideas at all.
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So, they were the unfriendly invaded inhabitants...
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LOL, very true. One would think the human race could figure it out after millennia of history to draw upon.
It is better to have enough ideas for some of them to be wrong, than to be always right by having no ideas at all.
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Insert your own word for daredevil.
I'll start: Dumba$$
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Soon to be extinct
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"Hughes , who transported his rocket to Amboy late last week, with his vehicle breaking down numerous times during the 100-mile trek."
He can't even get his "launch pad" to drive 100 miles without breaking down and he's going to launch himself 1 mile high? Why does't he just book a commercial airline flight, they fly far higher than that?
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As for just hopping on a commercial aircraft ... There is no talking sense into idiots. I say let Darwin take its course.
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Well, he doesn't believe in science, so how is he going to believe that planes fly higher than he can launch himself?
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Here's you a steam rocket video. Actual launch is at 3:30.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=d0cQBTgG908
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Amen to that Dik.
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- his ship fails, and his launch attempt "falls flat",
- his ship launches, and his landing "falls flat",
- his ship launches, and he sees for himself the earth is flat.
In all cases, the result is a foregone conclusion.
STF
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but, doesn't live long enough to tell anyone... so, the rest of us still think the world is round...
Dik
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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=LfUvGlWErY4
I didn't watch the hold thing once I heard not today!
this one is a little latter
https://youtu.be/U2zQ4hSCgbc
maybe SuperBowl weekend now!
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In the sense of "strawberry jam"?
A.
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btw, I saw a Youtube interview of another believer. He seemed pretty well educated insofar as the arguments go; he was wrong, but it was interesting listening to the rationale.
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Short story: He's taking his rocket home, repair and repaint it, hopes to launch sometime between now and Super Bowl Sunday.
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So, wouldn't the only conclusion he draws be that he lives in the exact middele of the flat earth?
And on top of that, even if he drove another 1000 miles (lets say he could, seing the problems he had merely leaving his driveway), and he tried the same thing, he'd be again in the middle of the flat earth.
Thereby practically proving that the earth rotates around him...
I'd do it for that as well, ending up in a walker is just collateral damage having proved you're the centre of the universe.
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Of course, Felix Baumgarten must also be part of the conspiracy: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=FHtvDA0W34I, but he at least claims to have jumped from 100 times the altitude this pea-brain is attempting to get to.
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Self-taught rocket scientist finally blasts off into California sky
"I'm tired of people saying I chickened out and didn't build a rocket. I'm tired of that stuff. I manned up and did it."
https://www.nbcnews.com/news/us-news/self-taught-r...
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About time...
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BTW, in a steam powered rocket - do you have water also like a bottle rocket? Is there anything on the G force experienced?
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There are some longer ones also there - search for noiZe tTV along with MMH.
The lack of landing cushioning, other than break off of the nose cone, looks pretty brutal and I can't begin to imagine what the G loads are on launch....
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It looked to me like he ran out of steam about halfway up. Neglecting air resistance and assuming constant acceleration would give him +1g (above gravity) up to the halfway point and -1g from there to the peak. So potentially not bad on acceleration going up. Although his seat position doesn't look comfortable for a vertical flight.
I'd compare this to going over Niagara Falls in a barrel. Some people have done it with pretty minimal planning and survived, others didn't. Kind of a roll of the dice.
I'd have two concerns flying that thing. One, that the parachutes just wouldn't open for whatever reason. Two, that the control system, if any, would fail and let me just do a big rainbow arc into the ground at full speed.
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