Fees for Precast Parking Structure as EOR
Fees for Precast Parking Structure as EOR
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I need to work out some competitive fees for some precast parking structures on a $/SF or $/Stall basis. Anybody have any advice to offer? Details:
- All above grade.
- Low seismic.
- Ontario is the market but data from elsewhere is better than nothing.
- It'll be the model where the design team sets the layout and I do foundations, lateral, and preliminary sizing. A precaster will be driving it home with the detailed design when all is said and done.
- There's talk of doing it Revit. I'd be interested to receive input on that front. Fee impact? Pitfalls to watch out for? Trying to Revit model something that's basically a ramps makes me cringe a bit.
- All above grade.
- Low seismic.
- Ontario is the market but data from elsewhere is better than nothing.
- It'll be the model where the design team sets the layout and I do foundations, lateral, and preliminary sizing. A precaster will be driving it home with the detailed design when all is said and done.
- There's talk of doing it Revit. I'd be interested to receive input on that front. Fee impact? Pitfalls to watch out for? Trying to Revit model something that's basically a ramps makes me cringe a bit.
I like to debate structural engineering theory -- a lot. If I challenge you on something, know that I'm doing so because I respect your opinion enough to either change it or adopt it.






RE: Fees for Precast Parking Structure as EOR
I recently finished one and we charged 0.85% the project cost. 100% revit.
RE: Fees for Precast Parking Structure as EOR
Revit is pretty schweeet, but not something you pick up in a day. If this is your first major Revit project, budget for a lot of learning and cursing.
Unless you are a Revit expert, you will need to rely heavily on a cracker-jack Revit (Structure) expert. Ramps are no problem in Revit.
I would be explicit about exactly what is expected of your end of the Revit model. Will updates occur via back and forth exchanges? Each exchange is an event.
Will the end-user require robust scheduling and take-offs from your model?
RE: Fees for Precast Parking Structure as EOR
I'll be the EOR, taking overall responsibility. The precaster's responsibility will be the delegated design of the superstructure as you've suggested.
Not sure about robust but certainly some scheduling and take offs. I'll need to show quantities of beams, columns, tees etc. I won't need to get into rebar and connection hardware or anything detailed like that.
The estimates provided so far strike me as kind of high for something like this (0.85%-1.0% construction cost). Are we not used to full building design fees coming in around 0.65% construction cost? For example:
3000 stalls
1,125,000 SF
$6,500 construction cost per stall?
@1.00% = $195,000; $0.17 /SF
@0.85% = $166,000; $0.15 /SF
Does that sound about right? I suppose that a parking structure's cost is much more related to structure than a normal building's cost so maybe that justifies the higher %construction number?
I like to debate structural engineering theory -- a lot. If I challenge you on something, know that I'm doing so because I respect your opinion enough to either change it or adopt it.
RE: Fees for Precast Parking Structure as EOR
REVIT is an absolute bear to learn, but youtube videos have always found me the answer. If this is your first REVIT job I suggest you carry a set of drawings in CAD as well. In a crunch you can give the CAD drawings and promise REVIT once you get it together.
RE: Fees for Precast Parking Structure as EOR
I would agree with the last statement that since this is a heavy structural type project, it would deserve a higher proportion of the %construction number than a standard building.
RE: Fees for Precast Parking Structure as EOR
Noted and corrected. Thanks for that.
I like to debate structural engineering theory -- a lot. If I challenge you on something, know that I'm doing so because I respect your opinion enough to either change it or adopt it.
RE: Fees for Precast Parking Structure as EOR
RE: Fees for Precast Parking Structure as EOR
RE: Fees for Precast Parking Structure as EOR
Dik
RE: Fees for Precast Parking Structure as EOR
I like to debate structural engineering theory -- a lot. If I challenge you on something, know that I'm doing so because I respect your opinion enough to either change it or adopt it.
RE: Fees for Precast Parking Structure as EOR
RE: Fees for Precast Parking Structure as EOR
I like to debate structural engineering theory -- a lot. If I challenge you on something, know that I'm doing so because I respect your opinion enough to either change it or adopt it.
RE: Fees for Precast Parking Structure as EOR
Dik
RE: Fees for Precast Parking Structure as EOR
This kinda is the detailed costing I'm afraid. 12 HR turnaround on proposal.
Are you teasing me? Anytime somebody proposes hollowcore for parking 'round here, they get roasted on durability issues. It was ajk1 that took me task on it back in 2015.
I like to debate structural engineering theory -- a lot. If I challenge you on something, know that I'm doing so because I respect your opinion enough to either change it or adopt it. And that was just for an ancillary ramp.
RE: Fees for Precast Parking Structure as EOR
Dik
RE: Fees for Precast Parking Structure as EOR
I like to debate structural engineering theory -- a lot. If I challenge you on something, know that I'm doing so because I respect your opinion enough to either change it or adopt it.
RE: Fees for Precast Parking Structure as EOR
Dik
RE: Fees for Precast Parking Structure as EOR
Dik
RE: Fees for Precast Parking Structure as EOR
RE: Fees for Precast Parking Structure as EOR
Nope.
So far, I'm being asked to model it. Low level of detail but still..
I like to debate structural engineering theory -- a lot. If I challenge you on something, know that I'm doing so because I respect your opinion enough to either change it or adopt it.
RE: Fees for Precast Parking Structure as EOR
I like to debate structural engineering theory -- a lot. If I challenge you on something, know that I'm doing so because I respect your opinion enough to either change it or adopt it.
RE: Fees for Precast Parking Structure as EOR
Dik