Live Load Reduction on a Double Tee
Live Load Reduction on a Double Tee
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Live load reduction per ASCE 7 uses the Kll factor. The item is question is a double tee used in an office building, with a 3.5" (average) thickness topping slab . I would use Kll = 1.0 for this double tee. The original calcs used Kll=2.0. This seems optimistic to me, but is it common in the precast industry to use Kll=2.0?
I don't consider it an Interior Beam, but I could see some making that argument.
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I don't consider it an Interior Beam, but I could see some making that argument.
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RE: Live Load Reduction on a Double Tee
If load sharing is non-existent, then I would argue that [Kll x At] for each unit is equal to the projected area of the individual unit.
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RE: Live Load Reduction on a Double Tee
RE: Live Load Reduction on a Double Tee
I would consider a double tee to be a one way slab not a beam and a hollowcore as a slab and not a beam in this scenario. Now if the precast member was being loaded by transverse framing.... i would say it is a beam and therefore kll=2.
Now i know this means you doing get to reduce live loads most likely, and these loads will stack over floors which can be frustrating for load bearing walls (CMU/Concrete) becuse they don't really get to reduce much until multiple floors have added up.
RE: Live Load Reduction on a Double Tee
Personally, I've never done any sort of double tee load sharing, for the reasons KootK mentions.
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RE: Live Load Reduction on a Double Tee
RE: Live Load Reduction on a Double Tee
There's usually some load transfer mechanism even without a topping. See the related article attached. There pretty much has to be some load transfer ability otherwise you form lips from one plank to the next under differential load. I think that it comes down to an incompatibility between how much transfer can keep adjacent flanges together and how much can truly engage the flexural capacity of the neighboring tee. The former is relatively easy and, one could argue, mandatory. The latter is pretty tough.
Any chance those would be precast engineers?
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