wHAT iS ThiS pLaCE??
wHAT iS ThiS pLaCE??
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A friend just back from Kauai was puzzled by this building he passed. Seems like a lot of power to a pretty innocuous building with no visible exhaust stacks. Zoom in behind the transformer line-up and you can see large insulators sticking out of the wall.
What do you folks think it is?
Google link to street view of it
Funny as you move one foot to the right a bunch of trucks appear. LOL. Maybe it's a teleportation node?
Keith Cress
kcress - http://www.flaminsystems.com
What do you folks think it is?
Google link to street view of it
Funny as you move one foot to the right a bunch of trucks appear. LOL. Maybe it's a teleportation node?
Keith Cress
kcress - http://www.flaminsystems.com






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MikeL.
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" We are all here on earth to help others; what on earth the others are here for I don't know." -- W. H. Auden
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There is what looks like a transmission line arranged vertically on one set of poles.
There is what looks like a distribution line arranged horizontally on a second set of poles.
There does not seem to be a connection to the distribution circuit.
The transmission line is not continuous. The line from each direction enters the station.
Two feeds into a pumping station for redundancy?
Bill
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http://thegardenisland.com/news/kiuc-to-rebuild-ly...
http://files.hawaii.gov/dcca/dca/dno/dno2008/10032...
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I learned a lot here. Thanks everyone for pitching in on the puzzle.
My lucky buddy stayed in a 4-1/2 star resort. It wasn't 5 star and never could be because it has no air conditioning. He said it was roasting all day and night. All power on the island is apparently engine generators running on bunker oil. He managed to get a tour of the plant and listed off about 6 different makes of engines. Some were locomotive engines and some were ship engines. Everyone was directed to do washing and major appliance use during the day when solar is present. He went to take a shower at night but the time clock that kills the water heater late at night had shut off the heat to conserve power.
Keith Cress
kcress - http://www.flaminsystems.com
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Streetview for one of the feeder getaway down the street a bit:
https://www.google.com/maps/@22.0359533,-159.34120...
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I'm pretty sure all the obscuration is auto-computer done, maybe it thought that it was a license plate.
Weird! To test my theory I thought I'd google-map over to several substations in my town, that I've been too in the past, and of the five I went to two are completely wiped away!! No sign of them. How can they do that? How does a power company find they can delete moderate sized substations??
Keith Cress
kcress - http://www.flaminsystems.com
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Big substation that had 6(?) moderate silver transformers say 7x7x8 feet with a separate control panel for each when I last saw it
Second one:
The dark asphalt area but completely back to the back fence was a large substation cinder block walls and chain-link I know for a fact one of the transformers fed the large adjacent amusement park.
Keith Cress
kcress - http://www.flaminsystems.com
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On the second one all of the structures were gone from that dark asphalt area by August 2008 and all of the earlier images are too low resolution to know what might have been there. Again it might have been an increase in distribution voltage that eliminated the need for that location.
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" We are all here on earth to help others; what on earth the others are here for I don't know." -- W. H. Auden
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I never realized raising the distribution voltage would allow erasure of entire substations. I would expect the network load to slowly continue rising negating any 'fade-back'. Actually this town is pretty old and not much new has been added in those 30 years. Pretty cool that worked out.
Hey, how'd you see 'way back'?
Keith Cress
kcress - http://www.flaminsystems.com
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I'd gone to all those substations to see if substation signs were all blurred or if my robot theory was more likely. That's when I was shocked to see the missing substations. Subsequently I found the substation names on two substations though one was painted in huge hand printed letters across the large wood gate and the other was blurry, but knowing what it likely said I was able to read it - not like obliterated as Google would do. Neither was a solid rebuttal to "erasing substation names". Actually your example is a better argument to "stupid robot" erasure. Thanks.
Keith Cress
kcress - http://www.flaminsystems.com
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Keith Cress
kcress - http://www.flaminsystems.com
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In Google Street View you can click on the date of the photo to go back to other historical images. Kind of weird Google maps doesn't seem to offer this with the aerial view. When we switched from 4 kV to 12 kV, a whole lot of substations were eliminated.
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And may be you should not look at those, as the gentlemen that are now knocking at my door will attest to.
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Good point about the slider on Google Earth. I wish they would port that feature over to google maps. For a long distance perspective they have something called Google Earth Time Lapse https://earthengine.google.com/timelapse/ Which is pretty cool. You can see how entire cities change over the years.
I also hate that Google maps doesn't clearly tell you when the photo was captured. It makes it very difficult sometimes. If I can't find what I'm looking for with Google maps, I try Bing maps. Their Aerial View feature, when it is clear, comes in handy.
Here is that same missing substation. In Bing maps it is still there. https://www.bing.com/maps?osid=d0b77435-19ef-41ff-...
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Keith Cress
kcress - http://www.flaminsystems.com
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Keith Cress
kcress - http://www.flaminsystems.com
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The Santa Cruz location appears to be a messed up image in Google, even if it was being decommissioned or rebuilt. It does show what appears to be 2 newer pad mounts and some kind of digging being done for either new construction or to remove existing undergrounds and/or footings. The Bing birds eye view is definitely an older picture since the adjacent parking lots are not there, and the Bing aerial view is likely older too since those padmounts are not in it. Maybe it's being re-built, re-purposed or upgraded?
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Also keep in mind most existing 4kv substations are at least 40 years old. Many are well over 60. New 4kv construction ended in the 70s, and for a lot of POCOs before that time period. Getting rid of these stations is the best solution.
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Not so often seen near pump stations. The large tubes or the surge tower are a giveaway in such cases (pumping stations).
Gunnar Englund
www.gke.org
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