Pump to lift water vertically as well as horizontaly
Pump to lift water vertically as well as horizontaly
(OP)
Hello all,
I need to lift water from a dam near my farm.
The location from where dam water is allowed to be lifted is around 800-900 meters from my farm. My fatm land is around 40 to 50 feet above the water level.
Is it possible to install a pump in my farm and lift water from dam? If yes which type of pump will be suitable and approximately what hp capacity? I am looking for water flow of around 40-50 liters per minute.
I can not install pump at dam because of security reasons. I am ok if water flow need to be reduced a bit. Please advise.
I need to lift water from a dam near my farm.
The location from where dam water is allowed to be lifted is around 800-900 meters from my farm. My fatm land is around 40 to 50 feet above the water level.
Is it possible to install a pump in my farm and lift water from dam? If yes which type of pump will be suitable and approximately what hp capacity? I am looking for water flow of around 40-50 liters per minute.
I can not install pump at dam because of security reasons. I am ok if water flow need to be reduced a bit. Please advise.





RE: Pump to lift water vertically as well as horizontaly
So if you can't locate a pump within 25 ft elevation of the water level then I'm afraid you will have to get water from somewhere else.
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RE: Pump to lift water vertically as well as horizontaly
I read somewhere that jet pump can lift water several hundred feet. Can that work here?
One suggestion i have got locally is
I need to install reverse valve on my pipeline at source. Then fill the pipe completely with water by installing temporary pump at source. Once filled i can remove pump at source and install a pump at my farm and lift water.
Will that work?
RE: Pump to lift water vertically as well as horizontaly
RE: Pump to lift water vertically as well as horizontaly
It will require 2 pipes, 1 for the pressure supply from the pump to the eductor, 1 for return flow from the eductor to the pump.
There is a wealth of information on the net, suggest you review it and come back with questions.
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RE: Pump to lift water vertically as well as horizontaly
What you are proposing in response to Little Inch's post won't work either. Even if you fill the line initially as you propose you still cannot lift the water the distance you propose. The Jet pump eductor as Artisi proposes might work and might be the online option if you cannot physically put a pump at source.
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Ashtree
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RE: Pump to lift water vertically as well as horizontaly
Let's go back to basics here.
The highest level you can practically "lift" water from a water source like a dam is around 7m or 25 ft to the inlet of a pump.
The jet pumps referred to in these posts are just pumps. How you drive the pump, whether it is by high pressure water (jet pump), air ( an AODD or air turbine) or electric ( submersible , inline submersible or above ground) this is your limiting factor.
So you really need to see why you cannot install a pump in the dam.
One option if you can get some sort of access close to the dam is to install an inline submersible pump inside your pipe ( maybe a bit bigger than you would normally use) and then include the power cable and lifting rope inside so that you can retrieve it from outside the fenceline if it breaks down??
A jet pump can pump water with quite a large head, but it cannot "lift" water more than 25ft from the surface to the inlet of the jet pump.
Your other suggestion won't work either if your pump inlet is more than 25ft above water level.
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RE: Pump to lift water vertically as well as horizontaly
You wrote: 'I can not install pump at dam because of security reasons'.
Why? Maybe there are more simple ways to get an acceptable risk/security level than you have imagined?
RE: Pump to lift water vertically as well as horizontaly
RE: Pump to lift water vertically as well as horizontaly
There are many ways to secure a pump inside the pipe or under the water, but if the dam owners won't let you put your pump there then there's nothing much we can do.
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RE: Pump to lift water vertically as well as horizontaly
RE: Pump to lift water vertically as well as horizontaly
RE: Pump to lift water vertically as well as horizontaly
No it can't - it's physically impossible. What it can do is "pump" 200 to 230 ft head.
Big difference.
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Also: If you get a response it's polite to respond to it.
RE: Pump to lift water vertically as well as horizontaly
As pointed out to the OP earlier, there is plenty of reference on the net if interested.
To the OP, if interested we can advise but need a lot more info for a meaningful answer.
As LittleInch has said, it is pumped
not lift, although in a waterwell situation it is quite often referred to as lift.
It is a capital mistake to theorise before one has data. Insensibly one begins to twist facts to suit theories, instead of theories to suit facts. (Sherlock Holmes - A Scandal in Bohemia.)
RE: Pump to lift water vertically as well as horizontaly
RE: Pump to lift water vertically as well as horizontaly
It is a capital mistake to theorise before one has data. Insensibly one begins to twist facts to suit theories, instead of theories to suit facts. (Sherlock Holmes - A Scandal in Bohemia.)