## Sizing a Shock Absorber

## Sizing a Shock Absorber

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I'm trying to size a shock absorber for a seat. I found a helpful website but when on step 2 shown below, I don't see what is meant by the drive force. Is this just the weight x 9.81?

Isn't the weight already covered in step 1? Also, if there is a g force. Isn't the weight in step 1 and 2, multiplied by the g force?

Isn't the weight already covered in step 1? Also, if there is a g force. Isn't the weight in step 1 and 2, multiplied by the g force?

## RE: Sizing a Shock Absorber

FD would be the force of the shock absorber moving through distance S. The work done by the shock absorber equals the kinetic energy of the moving weight.

Ted

## RE: Sizing a Shock Absorber

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## RE: Sizing a Shock Absorber

Looking at the shape of the equations, I think the first step covers

onlykinetic energy (all that talk about weight is because they couldn't be bothered to talk about mass). It's not written at all clearly, but I think the formula is trying to beE

_{K}= (W.V^{2})/722In your application, step 2 could conveniently cover the potential energy released by seat and rider dropping the distance of the piston stroke (so F

_{D}would be the weight of the seat and rider in lb).You really need to watch your units: You can't talk about force being Weight x 9.81 (g is not dimensionless) and use a website that talks about weights in lb without coming severely unstuck.

A.

## RE: Sizing a Shock Absorber

Mass x g is a kitchen chairs. Probably doesn't need a damper.

## RE: Sizing a Shock Absorber

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## RE: Sizing a Shock Absorber

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## RE: Sizing a Shock Absorber

KE = Wt*V^2/722 ... not so sure about the factor ... definitely nothing to do with 9.81 m/s^2 it'll start with 32.174ft/sec^2 changing to 386in/sec^2 and then there's the 1/2 ... KE = 1/2*(m*v^2) which makes it 772 ... so I think another gremlin.

so what does that make the units of KE ... Lbf/(in/sec^2)*(in/sec)^2 = lbf*in ... not a pure unit (should be lbf*ft) but it'll do.

what this means is S is in inches (as noted).

It would be "better" if weight in lbf, V in ft/sec, D in ft (these units are consistent) ...

and you can figure out the changes in the coefficients.

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## RE: Sizing a Shock Absorber

Drag slugs into the equation and people's brains suddenly have to turn a corner and actually spend some time thinking about the units. Sadly, though, there's still the pound-mass hanging around to spoil things.

## RE: Sizing a Shock Absorber

Using mass is more correct, but recognising you're using weight and so when you need mass in an equation well that's weight/g. At least you're understanding where the "g" is coming from when it's "randomly" added to the equation.

Using metric weight, kgf instead of N, is ok in the real world, but in our world I think it can lead to trouble.

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