Seismic Design of Small Mezzanine
Seismic Design of Small Mezzanine
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I just wanted to get some feedback on several aspects of a project I have been working on.
I am designing a small (40'x25', 4' tall) mezzanine. It will be used for storage, so design LL is 250 psf, for heavy warehouse storage. The design is a composite deck, W beams, HSS columns, 12 bays. The spans are fairly small, 7-9 feet, so that the columns can be attached to the slab on grade below, without cutting holes for footings.
Most of my questions revolve around seismic design. I am in seismic design category D. I will just go ahead and list some of the assumptions I am making, and am curious to get thoughts on the accuracy and/or validity of the assumptions:
- I am looking at ASCE 15.5, non-building structures similar to buildings. It looks like I can select a seismic force resisting system from Table 15.4-1, but I get directed back to chapter 12 for design procedure.
- The concept we came up with was: tie the mezzanine into an existing, stable wall for lateral resistance in one direction. For the other direction, have the beams span between columns, with moment connections at the column base and beam connections.
- I see this system as an ordinary moment frame. Being in design category D, referencing Table 15.4-1, I have to use R and omega0 both =1 to avoid AISC 341, which gives me a base shear of 1.5*seismic weight. This seems high.
- In general, what is the difference between selecting a system with R and omega both =1, or both =3? Wouldn't both yield the same design forces?
- I'm thinking whatever I select, the high live load might govern member selection anyways.
I'm just looking for thoughts on if I am interpreting ASCE seismic design correctly.
I am designing a small (40'x25', 4' tall) mezzanine. It will be used for storage, so design LL is 250 psf, for heavy warehouse storage. The design is a composite deck, W beams, HSS columns, 12 bays. The spans are fairly small, 7-9 feet, so that the columns can be attached to the slab on grade below, without cutting holes for footings.
Most of my questions revolve around seismic design. I am in seismic design category D. I will just go ahead and list some of the assumptions I am making, and am curious to get thoughts on the accuracy and/or validity of the assumptions:
- I am looking at ASCE 15.5, non-building structures similar to buildings. It looks like I can select a seismic force resisting system from Table 15.4-1, but I get directed back to chapter 12 for design procedure.
- The concept we came up with was: tie the mezzanine into an existing, stable wall for lateral resistance in one direction. For the other direction, have the beams span between columns, with moment connections at the column base and beam connections.
- I see this system as an ordinary moment frame. Being in design category D, referencing Table 15.4-1, I have to use R and omega0 both =1 to avoid AISC 341, which gives me a base shear of 1.5*seismic weight. This seems high.
- In general, what is the difference between selecting a system with R and omega both =1, or both =3? Wouldn't both yield the same design forces?
- I'm thinking whatever I select, the high live load might govern member selection anyways.
I'm just looking for thoughts on if I am interpreting ASCE seismic design correctly.






RE: Seismic Design of Small Mezzanine
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It seems like I can use a steel OMF with R=2.5 and omega = 2, from Table 15.4-1, if I follow AISC 341, which it seems like just boils down to using FR or PR connections for beam to column. My adviser mentioned to use an all around fillet weld for this connection. Would this type of weld satisfy the 341 OMF requirements?
I'm also a bit unsure how to use the overstrength factor. Do I apply overstrength load combinations only when looking at force in the connections?
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Mike McCann, PE, SE (WA)
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Mike McCann, PE, SE (WA)
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I like to debate structural engineering theory -- a lot. If I challenge you on something, know that I'm doing so because I respect your opinion enough to either change it or adopt it.
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I'm hesitant to use bolted connections for the beam-column joints. At the very least, I could determine seismic forces as if it was an OMF, then the wall connection would take a portion of that load, reducing the demand on the baseplate connections, and adding some conservatism to the weld connections.
Thanks for the replies.
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Use full moment connection between beams and columns for “steel ordinary moment frames with unlimited height” is not enough.
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No special connections other than making a fixed base at the column.
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Emh = 2[1.1RyMp]/Lcf (E1-1)" "FR moment connections shall be designed for a required flexural strength and a required shear strength equal to the maximum moment and corresponding shear that can be transferred to the connection by the system, including the effects of material overstrength and strain hardening." --Section 9.1-29 AISC 341 Ordinary moment frame (OMF).
FR moment connection shall be designed per the required beam flexural strength AND loads due to structural self weight and other environmental effects.
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1) would the wall be able to provide adequate capacity for the out-of-plane loading from the mezzanine. What sort of connection would you provide? Even if wall could be justified to carry the load per length of wall at mezzanine elevation, I imagine it would be difficult to maintain integrity of connection at this junction if wall becomes highly damaged due to out-of-plane flexural action.
2) If mezzanine is been attached to 1 wall only, then out-of-plane twist would occur in wall when motion is parallel to wall
3) If mezzanine is provided with its own stiff lateral system out-of-plane of wall, would incompatibility with surrounding occur i.e. maybe flexible roof above or differential in wall flexibility at mezzanine termination?
Toby
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The "wall" isn't really a wall, it is more like a big block of concrete. There are two adjacent floor areas, one with a floor elevation ~5 feet above the other. The mezzanine is going in the lower area, the the top of the mezzanine will match the floor of the upper area. So, the "wall" it will tie into is really the side of the slab on grade of the upper floor area, which is also resting on a thick block of concrete acting as a 5 foot tall wall.
One tie in connection we came up with is a steel angle, one leg bolted into the wall, and the mezzanine deck spot welded onto the other leg. One reason for this thread is that I'd like to get a good idea of the seismic load so I can see if the bolts will hold it. I guess none of the frame seismic coefficients would apply for loading in the direction tied into the wall. Any ideas for estimating the seismic force acting to pull out that wall connection? Bolt shear would come from the seismic load in the perpendicular direction, where the seismic frame is being used. Although it is a bit unclear how much seismic force in that direction would be taken by the wall connection versus the frames.
@Shu, thanks for the explanation. I will have to spend some time working through that to build up an understanding.
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With this being the case, I don't think that it's appropriate to be using moment frames in either direction except perhaps as a redundancy measure if your client is willing to pay for it. The wall/blob/SOG will wind up being your lateral resisting element in both directions baring a very unconventional connection detail to the wall. And that's mostly good news. Cheaper construction. I'd recommend designing both the in plane and out of plane connections to the wall as R=1. As far as lateral systems go, this should be about as stiff and non-ductile as it gets.
I like to debate structural engineering theory -- a lot. If I challenge you on something, know that I'm doing so because I respect your opinion enough to either change it or adopt it.