Suction pressure of a pump lower than atmospheric pressure
Suction pressure of a pump lower than atmospheric pressure
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Is the main reason that suction pressure is lower than atmospheric pressure, is because the liquid level (Static suction level) is lower than the centerline of the pump?
If this situation happen, the most suitable pump to be used is self-priming pump?
Appreciated if anyone can advice and provide information. Thank you.
If this situation happen, the most suitable pump to be used is self-priming pump?
Appreciated if anyone can advice and provide information. Thank you.





RE: Suction pressure of a pump lower than atmospheric pressure
No centrifugal pump is truly self priming because they all require liquid to be evacuated from the center of the impeller by the rotation of the impeller to cause the area of lower pressure. Therefore they must initially start full of liquid. Self priming centrifugal pumps are often of a style where the impeller sits in the housing below both the suction and the discharge thereby remaining full of liquid all the time. Provided the suction lift is moderate they can often "self prime" using the volume in the pump case.
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Ashtree
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RE: Suction pressure of a pump lower than atmospheric pressure
The friction losses in the suction line and the geometric head at the suction may effect the pressure at the suction. The liquid being pumped may also be in pressurized or vacuum condition in a tank or reservoir which would contribute in having a suction pressure at the pump inlet varying from Patm.
By the way, having suction pressure lower than atm. pressure does not necessarily mean cavitation or inception of cavitation occur. That phenomenon relates to the vapor pressure of the liquid, thus the concept of net positive suction head available vs. required (given by the manufacturer based on operation and pumps characteristics and the acceptable drop of head - to make it short...) - keeping in mind a certain safety margin to be observed.
Self-priming is, I would say, a design feature or option and is not the only way to prime the pump. It can be a manual procedure for instance that needs to be applied.
RE: Suction pressure of a pump lower than atmospheric pressure
Centrifugal pumps require a flooded suction to start and work effectively. There are a number of ways this can happen.
Self priming pumps, either centrifugal or PD type. Note the self priming centrifugal pumps always need some water stored inside them to work.
Just turn it on and hope the pump will self charge
Use a vacuum line or air pump to produce a negative pressure in the inlet to raise water from the water level
Use a "foot valve" aka non return valve on the inlet to prevent draining back ( tend not to work too well after a while)
Lower the pump or use a submersible pump or a shaft driven pump
Lots of options and your choice will depend on your flow rates, size, amount of "lift" required.
LI
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RE: Suction pressure of a pump lower than atmospheric pressure
Vacuum assisted self-pumps can be equipped with an integral vacuum pump or a air driven ejector or operated by an externally vacuum or high air pressure source.
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RE: Suction pressure of a pump lower than atmospheric pressure
Had not come across these before now - thanks for info. Always thought these bits cam separate from each other, but the powers of Mr Google show me differently.
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RE: Suction pressure of a pump lower than atmospheric pressure
Obviously, the 'wet prime' version may be a poor choice for outdoor unheated locations in a freezing climate.