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While a 60 year old aircraft is not unusual, one that's still in production after 60 years is...
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While a 60 year old aircraft is not unusual, one that's still in production after 60 years is...

While a 60 year old aircraft is not unusual, one that's still in production after 60 years is...

(OP)
Here's an amazing story about an aircraft that has been in production, virtually unchanged, for 60+ years, and now holds that record for the most of any one model to have been produced, the Cessna 172, with something over 43,000 having come off the line:

http://www.bbc.com/future/story/20170302-the-plane...

John R. Baker, P.E. (ret)
EX-Product 'Evangelist'
Irvine, CA
Siemens PLM:
UG/NX Museum:

The secret of life is not finding someone to live with
It's finding someone you can't live without

RE: While a 60 year old aircraft is not unusual, one that's still in production after 60 years is...

Thanks John... I didn't realise it was originally planned as a trainer... just thought of it as the 'Volkswagen' of airplanes... just like the old DC3...

Dik

RE: While a 60 year old aircraft is not unusual, one that's still in production after 60 years is...

Aside from newer flight computers, what is there on it to make it better? It is cheap, easy to fly. Doesn't it use a modified car engine,too?

RE: While a 60 year old aircraft is not unusual, one that's still in production after 60 years is...

The last I checked, physics hasn't changed in 60+ years.

If there is a design that takes the most advantage of physics, should it ever change?

--Scott
www.aerornd.com

RE: While a 60 year old aircraft is not unusual, one that's still in production after 60 years is...

(OP)
It uses an air-cooled, 4-cylinder Lycoming engine:

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Lycoming_O-360

Note that the original Cessna 172 had a 145 HP engine and sold for about $8,700 in 1956. Today, there are two basic models, the 160 HP 172R for $275,000 and the 180 HP 172S for $308,000 (these prices are a couple of years old).

John R. Baker, P.E. (ret)
EX-Product 'Evangelist'
Irvine, CA
Siemens PLM:
UG/NX Museum:

The secret of life is not finding someone to live with
It's finding someone you can't live without

RE: While a 60 year old aircraft is not unusual, one that's still in production after 60 years is...

Great article.
I'm glad it mentioned Mathias Rust's historic flight.


John,
Are you shopping for your next hobby?
wink

STF

RE: While a 60 year old aircraft is not unusual, one that's still in production after 60 years is...

(OP)
When I was younger I considered taking flying lessons, but couldn't afford it. Now that I can, I suspect that people would say that I'm too old to start now.

No, I'm still doing restorations. My wife just gave me the job of restoring the finish on our 37 year old dining room table love

John R. Baker, P.E. (ret)
EX-Product 'Evangelist'
Irvine, CA
Siemens PLM:
UG/NX Museum:

The secret of life is not finding someone to live with
It's finding someone you can't live without

RE: While a 60 year old aircraft is not unusual, one that's still in production after 60 years is...

Quote (swertel)

If there is a design that takes the most advantage of physics, should it ever change?

No, it shouldn't:


smile

"For every expert there is an equal and opposite expert"
Arthur C. Clarke Profiles of the future

RE: While a 60 year old aircraft is not unusual, one that's still in production after 60 years is...

Add the Lockheed C-130 to that list. First flight 1954.

old field guy

RE: While a 60 year old aircraft is not unusual, one that's still in production after 60 years is...

The AN2 pictured above by checkerhater ,
Whilst that aircraft is officially out of production,it lives on as the AN3 essentially the same machine with a turboprop engine.
And they are still making that.
B.E.

You are judged not by what you know, but by what you can do.

RE: While a 60 year old aircraft is not unusual, one that's still in production after 60 years is...

Checkerhater. That takes me back. I jumped out of an AN2 30 yrs ago. Underpowered terrible plane, like flying a dinosaur.

Remember - More details = better answers
Also: If you get a response it's polite to respond to it.

RE: While a 60 year old aircraft is not unusual, one that's still in production after 60 years is...

I guess the design was a compromise typical for after-war economy; just like this car: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Citro%C3%ABn_2CV

Sorry, it looks like I'm hijacking the thread. Won't happen again.

"For every expert there is an equal and opposite expert"
Arthur C. Clarke Profiles of the future

RE: While a 60 year old aircraft is not unusual, one that's still in production after 60 years is...

70 years in production: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Beechcraft_Bonanza

"For every expert there is an equal and opposite expert"
Arthur C. Clarke Profiles of the future

RE: While a 60 year old aircraft is not unusual, one that's still in production after 60 years is...

Can't forget this guy, but I don't know if he is technically still in production. She is always well maintained though to still be flying.

--Scott
www.aerornd.com

RE: While a 60 year old aircraft is not unusual, one that's still in production after 60 years is...

Introduced in 1956 and still being produced, though not in the numbers of some of the others up there:

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ayres_Thrush

RE: While a 60 year old aircraft is not unusual, one that's still in production after 60 years is...

If you take the design of the Piper Cub from its inception as the Taylor E-2 Cub in 1930 to present, still manufactured versions of the Super Cub, the Cub is still in production 87 years later. the engine has gone from the original forty-horsepower, two cylinder engine to today's Super Cubs with 180 horsepower, but it's still recognizable, and they're still heavily used and/or enjoyed today.

old field guy

RE: While a 60 year old aircraft is not unusual, one that's still in production after 60 years is...

Not aware of anybody producing copies of the super cub, and piper stopped making them in '94 or so. But they are venerable, and the design was good enough that people will be copying it for years to come, at least once the drone craze dies down.

RE: While a 60 year old aircraft is not unusual, one that's still in production after 60 years is...

Trueblood,
There is a company called Cub Crafters that restores old piper cubs ,and also manufactures part23 certified cubs.
B.E.

You are judged not by what you know, but by what you can do.

RE: While a 60 year old aircraft is not unusual, one that's still in production after 60 years is...

Very cool, berk, was not aware of them.

RE: While a 60 year old aircraft is not unusual, one that's still in production after 60 years is...

Wiki says Piper Cubs had a stall speed of 38 mph. It surprises me its that low. There were missions during WW2 of Russians jumping out without parachutes into snow in Finland. Jumping out of a Piper Cub at 30-40 mph into powdered snow would probably be very survivable.


RE: While a 60 year old aircraft is not unusual, one that's still in production after 60 years is...

HH,
I read somewhere that Britain got a lot of spies into France during WW2 that way.
The aircraft would fly low and slow over a farmer's field, the spy would tuck and roll out a side door, and the plane would gradually bumble away (using as little engine power as possible yet still climb).

STF

RE: While a 60 year old aircraft is not unusual, one that's still in production after 60 years is...

I'd've thought that the Brit's would've used the Westland Lysander for spy delivery.

another day in paradise, or is paradise one day closer ?

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