Bend vs Elbow
Bend vs Elbow
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Hello Everybody,
I want to know the difference between elbows and bends.
I have found information like strength, friction, pressure drop, etc of using them but I want to know from manufacturing point of view and cost wise, which one is more economical?
If space is not a problem, is using bends everywhere feasible?
I want to know the difference between elbows and bends.
I have found information like strength, friction, pressure drop, etc of using them but I want to know from manufacturing point of view and cost wise, which one is more economical?
If space is not a problem, is using bends everywhere feasible?
RE: Bend vs Elbow
In piping, you are also permitted to use bends in place of elbows. However, the radius of a bend you can make cold, without internal guide tooling, and still retain something close to the full diameter through the bend, is pretty large. The bent component has residual stress in it, which may be of concern in corrosive services.
Is bending cheaper than adding elbow fittings? That depends on the method of attachment. For threading? No. For socket welding? Possibly. For butt welding? Probably.
ASME B31.3 section 304.2.1 gives the requirements for checking wall thinning on bends.
RE: Bend vs Elbow
Piping rarely uses bends ( classified as anything more than 1.5D radius) as they cost a lot more than forged elbows.
tubing such as instruments normally used bends
Pipelines always use bends, usualy of 3D or 5D bends made by heating a thicker pipe than normal then bending and allowing for bend thinning on the outer radius or 40D bends made by cold bending pipe.
tightest bend I've ever used cold bent was 10D but it was a special.
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RE: Bend vs Elbow
RE: Bend vs Elbow
But, buying a pre-fabricated pipe elbow outside of those two ranges is difficult, and so rolling a pipe is necessary, but very expensive when you absolutely need a different radius bend.
RE: Bend vs Elbow
I am a beginner in this field so I do not know exactly what I need to ask but I think I have got the answer that I was looking initially.
I currently work in piping used for Waste to Energy Power Plant. Most of the bends were elbows but few were 3D and 5D.
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RE: Bend vs Elbow
One of the important differences commonly ignored between bends and elbows is the change in "stiffness" of a system.
When a detailed stress analysis is performed on similar piping systems, a system with "all bends" is much stiffer than one with "all elbows". In accordance with the rules of ASME B31.1 and B31.3, the flexibility factors are significantly different
This means that the the calculated reaction forces on the system terminations (anchor points) are much higher with the system of bends than the one with elbows.
For piping systems with reaction sensitive terminations (like one with centrifugal pumps) stay away from the bends.
IMHO .....
MJCronin
Sr. Process Engineer
RE: Bend vs Elbow
RE: Bend vs Elbow