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What do you make of this on a residential construction?

What do you make of this on a residential construction?

What do you make of this on a residential construction?

(OP)
Sorry, not a residential build expert by any means and new to the forum.

Friend of mine is having a home built. Took a bunch of photos and he was concerned about this issue. Since I've not seen the plans, but always skeptical of home builders (sorry...bad experiences personally), not sure what the code requires and if this seems acceptable.

It is a new home in Pasco County, FL.


Basically looks like 3 2x18" sandwiched together that spans from the concrete block that spans the width of a 2 car garage, and then just rest next to the block on the other side on top of a basic wall with a strap?

Thoughts...sorry if not appropriate forum or place.

Thx









RE: What do you make of this on a residential construction?

Ok, so I see several issues.....

1. How are the trusses anchored to the block wall? Looks like there is some sort of strapping, but can't tell what the strapping is connected to.

2. Is the top course of the block solid or grouted to provide adequate bearing for the trusses? Why no sill plate?

3. What is the 3 ply beam supporting? It looks grossly mis-measured since the plies appear to vary in length and end at some arbitrary dimension beyond the wall.

4. The top plate of the stud wall where the beam is supported looks like it is deflecting excessively. Add a post.

5. The strap holding the beam down looks inadequate and not capable of providing any end restraint, rotation, or lateral support. It looks like some attempt was made to restrain it with maybe a 2x6 from the side but even the 2x6 looks hacked together.

6. The 3 ply beam looks like an after thought at best that was "site engineered"

RE: What do you make of this on a residential construction?

(OP)
^All great questions...haha

1. Not sure how the trusses are secured. There is hurricane strapping ultimately that also takes each truss and secures it to the block/top.

2. The top is a contiguous concrete pour. Basically in FL the entire/mostly I should say, it a concrete pour around the top. Then rebar runs at specific points vertically through the block, which concrete makes a "column" which secures it to the foundation for again/wind/hurricane needs.

3. The front right of the house it support. There is one bedroom over that spot/closet over the garage. That little kick out piece to the left is a sitting/window seat in the bedroom.

4/5. Something seemingly needs to be added here to support that beam. Not sure about the 2x6, which there are many of these currently running along that do the same thing. I know the framing should be complete by the end of next week, so maybe those will go away and something will be done about this.

6. Yes, kind of. But this is a home build using the standard plans for a big builder in the US. Just so happens, this floor plan is unique to just this community in the Country, which only one other house like this has ever been built. Who knows what they did. There is another home that was recently completed, but the elevation is different, which has likely different plans.

I told my buddy might be good to contact his construction manager, and if needed, hire a structural engineer locally and have them go onsite and get the plans and look it over, get it documented. Maybe they aren't following the plans #1. Usual framers/cheap laborers many home builders use and poor oversight/lack of knowledge with this exact house by the project manager and crew?

Any other thoughts appreciated.

Thanks


Here is a photo of the front of the house. The right side over the garage is that spot from the above first post photos if that gives a better idea.

And here are also a few photos of the back of the house. This is using 2x4 3 of them sandwiched. Not the massive front section. It shows a similar beam that spans a slight longer distances that the door section/bearing configuration. But the one photo shows it sitting on the block concrete as you asked in the first few qeuetions about the plate etc.









RE: What do you make of this on a residential construction?

Looks like you need to add five studs under the multiple 2X beam - three for the beam and an additional stud to either side to attach the straps to. The two studs for the straps need to be attached with additional hold downs to the foundation below too.

What is going on at the opposite end of the multiple 2X beam? You will need a minimum of three studs there too.

Mike McCann, PE, SE (WA)


RE: What do you make of this on a residential construction?

(OP)
^Sorry, very first picture of my post doesn't quite show it. I think he sent me another showing this better. It is sitting on the concrete block like all the trusses are, which makes sense and typical code.

Going through his google drive he let me have access to find the photos. Think I found a few more. Bad lighting, but it is sitting on the concrete.

And a better front image of the beam I think showing almost the entire length except where it sits on the garage concrete block side.

That section that kicks out is a window seat in the bedroom. The bonded 3ply beam is next to it and the wall for the bedroom.







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