Highest fatigue strength options for hand tool with significant stress concentration.
Highest fatigue strength options for hand tool with significant stress concentration.
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Hi all,
Our production engineering has designed a hand tool that significantly improves a process speed, but by its design, it has an 0.8mm thick x 5mm long cantilevered section with a stress raiser on one side, placed under unidrectional bending. Sketch attached.
The stress raiser is on the compressive side, so I'm not sure if it's actually an issue. Arguably it is drawing stress away from the tensile side I suppose, and we should consider making it even worse.
In any case, we can't find a material suitable to make this work for more than a few weeks. Money is effectively no object due to the amount of time this tool saves, versus the frustration of remaking them every week as they fail with what we have attempted thus far:
1) K1045 at around 400MPa yield, visibly bends after a dozen uses.
2) 4140 at around 900MPa, lasts a good few hundred uses.
3) Bohler K245, (http://www.buau.com.au/cold-work.php) heat treated professionally to around 58 Rc. Lasted a few thousand uses. This was not heat treated in a vaccuum furnace.
Next, we have been given a handful of tool steel options from the local Bohler rep, and were going to send the lot interstate for a more precise, cleaner heat treatment in a vaccuum furnace. Hopefully one of those works. If they end up failing in a month, I want to be prepared to get a little more exotic, for which I was hoping for the help of the experts here. What are everyone's thoughts on:
1) Other, non tool-steels for this application. I was thinking a lot of these hard tool steels are not designed for this kind of fatigue, so I was looking at other UHS steels e.g. Ferrium M54, but I don't know how they would compare.
2) What do we need to watch out for in the heat treat - e.g. as we are going up to high 50 Rc, I assume we are quenching pretty aggressively and not doing a lot of tempering - but would such a thin section attached to such a thick section be subject to massive internal stresses that would be counter productive in that case? How do we control that?
3) I have been thinking about secondary processes like nitriding to put a compressive preload in the tensile surface, but with such a thin section, would there be issues with us just accidentally nitriding most of the section depth, and having the centre of it go too far tensile and thus being counterproductive?
Thanks.
Our production engineering has designed a hand tool that significantly improves a process speed, but by its design, it has an 0.8mm thick x 5mm long cantilevered section with a stress raiser on one side, placed under unidrectional bending. Sketch attached.
The stress raiser is on the compressive side, so I'm not sure if it's actually an issue. Arguably it is drawing stress away from the tensile side I suppose, and we should consider making it even worse.
In any case, we can't find a material suitable to make this work for more than a few weeks. Money is effectively no object due to the amount of time this tool saves, versus the frustration of remaking them every week as they fail with what we have attempted thus far:
1) K1045 at around 400MPa yield, visibly bends after a dozen uses.
2) 4140 at around 900MPa, lasts a good few hundred uses.
3) Bohler K245, (http://www.buau.com.au/cold-work.php) heat treated professionally to around 58 Rc. Lasted a few thousand uses. This was not heat treated in a vaccuum furnace.
Next, we have been given a handful of tool steel options from the local Bohler rep, and were going to send the lot interstate for a more precise, cleaner heat treatment in a vaccuum furnace. Hopefully one of those works. If they end up failing in a month, I want to be prepared to get a little more exotic, for which I was hoping for the help of the experts here. What are everyone's thoughts on:
1) Other, non tool-steels for this application. I was thinking a lot of these hard tool steels are not designed for this kind of fatigue, so I was looking at other UHS steels e.g. Ferrium M54, but I don't know how they would compare.
2) What do we need to watch out for in the heat treat - e.g. as we are going up to high 50 Rc, I assume we are quenching pretty aggressively and not doing a lot of tempering - but would such a thin section attached to such a thick section be subject to massive internal stresses that would be counter productive in that case? How do we control that?
3) I have been thinking about secondary processes like nitriding to put a compressive preload in the tensile surface, but with such a thin section, would there be issues with us just accidentally nitriding most of the section depth, and having the centre of it go too far tensile and thus being counterproductive?
Thanks.





RE: Highest fatigue strength options for hand tool with significant stress concentration.
Or am I backwards, and that is the notch into the final part that is under stress?
RE: Highest fatigue strength options for hand tool with significant stress concentration.
RE: Highest fatigue strength options for hand tool with significant stress concentration.
racookpe1978,
No, you have it the right way around. Obviously something so small doesn't resist a lot of bending moment, but it still follows the same principles - smaller stuff just works on smaller forces.
tbuelna,
I think there is some work yet with changing the fillet, but I think the end result will be material * design, as changing the design alone will not solve the problem, so I'm really hoping for some materials advice in this discussion.
The fillet geometry is actually a very interesting discussion regardless - A greater stress concentration on the compressive side should slightly reduce the stress through the rest of the section (which includes the tensile side), and since this is uniaxial bending, that might be beneficial.
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Dik
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A quick google search reveals impressive strengths, but not as impressive as higher end steels - and I imagine it has no endurance limit. Any particular reason for recommending them?
RE: Highest fatigue strength options for hand tool with significant stress concentration.
Dik
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Due to the lack of background info provided, I'm imagining fatigue cracks originating from the corners of a simple rectangular cantilever.
https://i69.photobucket.com/albums/bb366/Alby2298/...
Do your calculated stress levels explain the breakage?
Is the stress level due to a required amount of force, or the result of a required displacement of the end of the cantilever?
If only the 0.8 mm displacement is required, then making the part thinner and better shaped will reduce the bending stress.
However If a certain amount of force is required, with the limited info provided, it seems like some subtle geometry changes and surface prep like Mil spec shot peening, or prestressing the leaf to yield would provide a useful boost in fatigue life, even if a gorgeous optimum material is chosen.
RE: Highest fatigue strength options for hand tool with significant stress concentration.
M54 or Airmet 100 would be offer significant improvement over any conventional steels.
Both of these will have much higher fatigue life than any Cu based alloy.
You also need a polished surface, no machining marks are allowed, and maybe you should look into shot peening as well.
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https://www.pa.msu.edu/people/edmunds/LArTPC/Other...
I used to have an Anschutz target rifle 40 years ago that had a copper beryllium firing pin and it was stated in the literature that this alloy had an indefinite fatigue life... that's what made me suggest the alloy. I also understand that pure copper has almost an infinite fatigue life.
I'm not into materials like EdStainless, and, his suggestions are likely far better, and, he seems to work with materials all the time...
Dik
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Some additional context for everyone:
- The cantilever is under a given force, not a given deflection.
- The cantilever is 0.8mm thick. The deflection is much less than this (I was thinking peening would simply damage it due to how thin it is?).
- One of the materials we are looking at is Bohler K890, http://www.bucanada.ca/k890_microclean_c.htm, which is supposed to be a cold work powder metallurgy tool steel, to allow a clean microstructure. How would this compare to e.g. Ferrium?
RE: Highest fatigue strength options for hand tool with significant stress concentration.
RE: Highest fatigue strength options for hand tool with significant stress concentration.
Or, maybe not.
Got some pictures of the broken ones? and pictures and drawings of the assembly
https://equilibregaia.files.wordpress.com/2013/05/...
8 down, 12 to go.
RE: Highest fatigue strength options for hand tool with significant stress concentration.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Maraging_steel
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I don't know what this thing does, so my suggestion may be completely off-base...
Can you redesign to make these easy to replace and stamp out a million from some "simple" alloy rather than going for the solid-gold approach?
Make it a twice-a-week preventive maintenance problem instead of trying to find unobtainium?
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RE: Highest fatigue strength options for hand tool with significant stress concentration.
But I would go with Airmet 100, it is a lot stronger.
The peening is done with very fine diameter shot, so the surface is still very smooth.
DIK, I based my fatigue comment on past experience with spring wire. BeCu is great at stuff when there is corrosion involved. There is also BeNi which is almost impervious to thermal fatigue, I have seen molds for glass that have been hit with molten glass and then cooled with an air blast, over 100 million times without any cracks.
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Maraging Steels (C300?)
Ferrium M54
Aermet 100
Bohler K890
What are everyones thoughts on the comparisons between them?
In terms of fatigue strength boosting processes:
- Peening
- Nitriding
Both for compressive stresses - I'm not sure how to choose between them, but I would think for such a thin section, nitriding would give better control of depth and internal stresses? Nitriding would also provide the surface hardness required to resist scratching from the circlips that are at Rc 50ish?
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I will look into where I can get C350 then - I am in Australia, hopefully it is reasonable to get some.
I was under the impression that nitriding also induces compressive stresses in the surface - is it not as effective as peening?
I will look into ISF - Does this improve just surface finish, or does it also improve material properties? I am thinking that we shouldn't have big issues with scratching regardless, if we operate above around 60Rc, although I am not sure at what point diminishing returns will kick in in terms of reducing surface roughness to enhance fatigue resistance.
Thanks.
RE: Highest fatigue strength options for hand tool with significant stress concentration.
Dik
RE: Highest fatigue strength options for hand tool with significant stress concentration.
RE: Highest fatigue strength options for hand tool with significant stress concentration.
As a metallic alloy, I understand the toxicity is eliminated and it is not hazardous to manufacture. I don't know, for sure, about the production process and if a hazard, the material should be avoided.
I should have added that the material and some of its compounds are toxic.
Dik
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if one looks at a simple wrench made by reliable tool manufactures. they are tough and durable. I suggest do a reverse engineering on those tools. met lab test. spectra analysis.
a high strength steel ( chrome moly ) with a flash chrome for wear and durability.
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With respect to inducing beneficial residual compressive stresses onto the upper surface of your diving board, shot peening would likely be best. That way you aren't limiting the strength of your steel to the nitriding/carburizing process temp. If you really want to nitride, you can spec out a min depth of whatever you want. Going as low as .002'' (.051mm) is totally doable. Again, just watch your temper temp with respect to the nitriding temp.
Tmoose, love the picture haha.
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Hunh? Raising the tensile and/or yield strength usually also raises the fatigue limit, see pg. 4 of http://www.asminternational.org/documents/10192/18...
Ok, not an "ultra high strength" steel, but the principle should hold. Granted, you can cause some other problems with heat treatment (decarburization, oxididation, quench cracking) that will affect fatigue properties, but those will also generally hurt the tensile and yield strength as well.
Edit: Ok, I was right, I just didn't read far enough. Look on the next page for a similar plot for 300M maraging steel, which I think does qualify as an "ultra high strength steel", and notice how higher strength heat treatment gives higher fatigue life stresses.
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They are strong, but you will get better performance out of the Airmet, M54, or K890.
I would look at nitride for surface treatment, it will provide some compressive stress and wear resistance.
However you need to make sure that you can nitride at a temp that does not exceed the tempering temperature for the alloy.
Otherwise you will be softening it.
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RE: Highest fatigue strength options for hand tool with significant stress concentration.
You're right. Meant to say fracture toughness. Good catch.
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Edstainless, I don't really want to use Airmet as it seems to have a prick of a heat treat to go through to get it done, but M54 and K890 both seem doable. Do you have any thoughts between the two of those?
I will nitride as long as I can do it at low enough temp, else I will look into peening.
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RE: Highest fatigue strength options for hand tool with significant stress concentration.
But yes, the other two are easier.
I feel that is comes down to availability, which can you get?
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